all though never mentioned in any threads. most of the changes in hawaii have come about since the recent investment between apollo management and ncl / star cruises. from what i understand, one of the stipulations was that they could reduce or all bit iliminate the ncla fleet. thus this has happened in the passed 6 months with the announcement of the jade and now the aloha. ever since the ncla fleet was set up ncl/star cruises has run at a loss. and no company is willing to do that. well any smart company that is.