I completely agree. With the airlines charging extra for bagage I consider my tie and Jacket excess bagage. I no longer bring dress shoes I have a black pair of sneekers. We have been on at least 15 cruises and I am tired of dress codes! I do understand slacks(dockers) for dinner. After dinner I am back in shorts and sandals. That is why I like NCL. Same dinning room and service formal or not!