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Old November 12th, 2013, 07:40 PM
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And how is it "basically a Republican plan"? What Republicans have pushed for, for years, are tort reform and the ability to purchase insurance across state lines, neither of which are included in Obamacare.

While I probably should have said "mature" instead of "elderly" with respect to maternity coverage, saying that an Obamacare high-deductable policy is the same as catastrophic insurance is totally ignoring the fact of the huge premium difference between the two.

I have never questioned that a good point of Obamacare is coverage of pre-existing conditions. I do, however, believe that if that was actually the intent of the push for the ACA, that it could have been done better, cheaper, and with much less disruption.

When this bill was sold to a partisan Congress that had not even had a chance to read it, the cost was projected at $900 million dollars. Most of that was "paid for" by raiding Medicare, specifically payments to Medicare Advantage plan providers, causing large numbers of seniors to get insurance-cancellation notices two years ago, and a six- to ten-fold increase in their premiums to replace the Advantage plans with ordinary Medicare supplements. A year ago that cost estimate was "corrected" to $1.8 billion. The most recent projection I've heard is now $2.8 billion. What happens to everything else government spends money on?

As for states not going along with Medicaid expansion, please remember that a number of states, including ones like California which have huge Medicaid expenses, have been flirting with bankruptcy even without the expansion. So the feds say, don't worry, we'll pick up all of the cost the first year, and only slowly taper that aid off just a little bit. Question: why should anyone believe that? Especially as Obamacare expenses continue to ratchet up? The federal government has been supposed to pay 40% of special education costs all along, and has never provided anything even close to that despite its promises.
Is it not basically Myth's plan, scaled to a national level?

"Sold to Congress?" Congress wrote it! 2000+ pages is certainly not what Obama has in mind. Could it have been done better? Of course, but not in America. The rest of the world laughs at America's inability to provide basic health care without adding provisions for every corporate sponsor of government.

The catastrophic policy is still available - FACT. It is now available to all regardless of health - FACT. The risk is now shared by all - FACT. Therefore, some premiums go up, some stay the same. And millions who could not obtain insurance before now can.

If you have your health, consider it a blessing tax. Obamacare has no death squads. It is the people opposed to Obamacare who are the death squads.
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