Well that was simple. On other message boards (and you know who i mean) if you asked that question you were in for a world of hurt. According the 'them' absolutely no one would dare dress down after dinner. And rules are rules and never to be broken. I know the posters are in a small minority and i must keep that in mind when i ask questions. But I've gotten my head chewed off over there before. I now know never ever to ask about wearing shorts and smuggling booze. Unless I want to start World War 3 and Ive asked and posted things just to get them on a roll. Such fun! Thanks for your replies, we leave on July 30th.