AR! Shame on you for thinking that I was advocating something illegal or underhanded! I was talking creative in locating the father, or going to court and having him declared 'persona non gratis' or getting the legal system to declare he is unavailable and has no rights seeing as how they did not think they could track him down. Creative and illegal are definately two differant things. Anyone that knows me understands that I of all people would never advise or encourage anyone to do anytime illegal.