Dorothy, I actually love debating, especially with people who are as stubborn as I am! <G>
My shep comment was directed to PapaBill in that he was mistaken in that I am cheap as opposed to trying to change the system.
Personally I think the tip system is outdated and sould be abandoned.
So far comments seem to revolve around that is the system so accept it. My feeling is Why should I accept it just because it is the custom? There are lots of customs that have gone out of style.