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Old December 12th, 2006, 03:49 AM
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Ron n Jon,

Originally Posted by You
We think that the cruise line industry is on a course of self-destruct. To fill their vessels they have not only lowered their prices, (and their culinary and service standards) they have abandoned or refuse to enforce their rules on smoking, their rules on dress code and their rules in queuing up to take one’s turn. These cut-rate cruises of today have become a free for all and I would hate to see the results of such corporate lack of discipline and leadership when a ship ever became in danger.
I think that you are painting with an overly broad brush when you refer to "the cruise line industry" as though all cruise lines are the same. There have always been various tiers in the cruise industry, traditionally characterized as "budget," "mainstream," "premium," and "luxury," just as you find similar tiers in the hotel industry (one does not equate a Days Inn with a Fairmont Princess Hotel). Historically, these tiers were characteristic of the strictness of "formal" evenings, the fanciness of the line's cuisine, and the level of service that one would expect. I don't see a change in that basic structure, though some lines clearly have moved "downscale" -- perhaps a whole tier in some cases -- in the market.

What has changed, though, is the demographics of the passengers. Years ago, most passengers had a strong sense of social etiquette and those who didn't were so few in number that they usually complied with dress codes and such as soon as they realized how badly their failure to comply stood out. Now, there are passengers who simply don't care that they stand out in a negative way. Social etiquette would say that the host(ess) should not have to enforce a dress code because the guests should comply with it without enforcement, so one can forgive the fact that the cruise lines were slow to respond to the new situation. Nonetheless, the response to Kuki's question on enforcement of dress codes on the Royal Caribbean board was both clear and nearly unanimous in favor of strict enforcement of dress codes, regardless of what the dress codes are. I do hope that the cruise lines are listening!

Originally Posted by You
We have given up the Caribbean altogether. Before we are branded snobs, let it be said that there is a snobbery that has taken over the activities of these sailings that is called reverse snobbery. Passenger can now be seen walking about the Atrium on formal night dressed in shorts, dirty t-shirt, ball cap on backwards bearing a bottle of beer in hand. The sneer on their faces clearly says they despise those who choose to dress for dinner. Their stance is that they consider themselves just as good a passenger as those formally dressed passengers. Well, up to that point of their entry into the Atrium, dressed deliberately to shock, they were just as good. But then their actions clearly make them out to be the snobs that they really are.
Good point, except that "snobs" is the wrong word to describe such arrogant boors.

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