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Old March 31st, 2009, 06:37 PM
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Default Umm....Are AK cities US ports?

A question was asked on a blog regarding the Jones Act etc ..."I see they stop in Skagway AK, then on to Ketchikan AK, or Sitka AK to Juneau AK. Are those considered United States ports?"

The blog person was nice and didn't point out the obvious.

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We get people coming up here on day tours from Skagway and I can't tell you how many times I've heard "how come y'all use this funny-colored money in Alaska?" Even having a Canada Customs guard coming through the bus before they reach Carcross isn't enough of a clue for some folks.
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Yes, they are US ports.

And if your cruise starts in Seattle and you miss the first stop the next stop you can legally get on is the ship's first stop in Canada. If that happens to be the last stop before returning.... you are SoL.
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The last i've heard Alaska is still part on the US.

The canadians should a movement to make Alaska part of

Canada. Makes a lot more sense to this canadian.

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The last i've heard Alaska is still part on the US.

The canadians should a movement to make Alaska part of

Canada. Makes a lot more sense to this canadian.

Take a look at how they vote in US elections. They even elected a crook.... no thanks, that can stay part of the US.
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There are some that believe that if you chose to vote, you have no choice but vote for a crook. 8)

This isn't the most absurd question I've heard. When I lived in Juneau, I had a tremendous amount of tourists asking me two things.

1) How high up are we??

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A few feet. That is the ocean out there, you are at sea level.

2) Why is the glacier so dirty? Can't they hose it down?

Answer)

There is no answer...I just stood there with my mouth hanging open and trying to picture 1000 firetrucks with their nozzles aimed at the glacier.

Don't worry about asking questions. Most Alaskans have lived there their whole lives, city life and life in the lower 48 is just as different to them as Alaska is to you. You never know, you may end up flattering someone!
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Ephraim... I believe the charges against Ted Stevens were dropped.

Eagle - when people in Juneau ask "how high are we" don't you think they are referring to lattitude, not altitude?

What I think is sad is that some media, in their quest to minimize anything appearing as credibility by Sarah Palin (and this post has nothing to do with how you feel about SP) has continued to foster the perception of Alaska as NOT a part of the United States.

I was watching MSNBC's coverages of Palin's speech on "choice" for women last week and they actually described it as "Sarah Palin's first speech in the United States since the election." I kid you not.

Do I think MSNBC doesn't know Alaska is part of the US? No, I think they were intentionally taking liberties with our language (saying "in the United States" instead of "national spotlight") in order to foster the vague concept of the uninformed that Alaska is more of a foreign country than one of the United States.

I believe our media on the right and the left is no longer concerned about accuracy and have fallen into complete policy-driven journalism. And yes it is happening on the right as well. When I watch Hannity play pinata on his guests by repeating the same Obama allegations he was saying during the elections I just have to shout at the TV "move on already."

Here is another one: Palin NEVER said "I can see Russia from my house". Tina Fey acting the part of Palin said that on SNL. What Palin said was "There are parts of Alaska where you can actually see Russia" which is a true statement.

I feel Alaska is suffering from Palin syndrome, not because she is a bad governor for Alaska (pre-election she was the most popular governor in the US) but because the Media has done such a hatchet job on her that Alaska is now suffering as a result.

Regardless of how YOU feel about Palin personally (and I don't mean to start that discussion because no one could possibly say anything we haven't already heard a million times)... Do you think it is possible that Alaska cruises are not selling this year because there are millions of Americans who support a popular President who was opposed by the governor of Alaska? When asked if they would like to visit Alaska do they automatically associate it with Palin? If so, should Palin fall on her sword for the benefit of Alaska? Or should Alaskans stand up for the state more?

Once again, this is not a discussion about Palin policies. The question is not whether you think she deserves it, it is whether you think there is a Palin syndrome that is currently hurting the Alaska tourism business.
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:-) Most of the time they were inquiring about the altitude. I don't think it's that surprising of a question. Snow covered mountains confuse things. If they were in the Swiss Alps, it wouldn't be an unusual question.

Sarah got a undeserved rap. Good thing she is an extraordinarily strong person. I could go on but it would be rude of me. Lets just say we can't wait to retire and move back to Alaska and get the heck out of the SF bay area.

I don't think politics is hurting Alaska tourism, I think the economy is.
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IMO the cost of airfare is hurting the Alaska cruise market. Especially flights out of Anchorage. Our flights for an upcoming Alaska cruise were almost as much as the cruise itself!

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Do you think it is possible that Alaska cruises are not selling this year because there are millions of Americans who support a popular President who was opposed by the governor of Alaska? When asked if they would like to visit Alaska do they automatically associate it with Palin? If so, should Palin fall on her sword for the benefit of Alaska? Or should Alaskans stand up for the state more?

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Absolutely NOT. It's the GROSS oversupply and continued adding of ships and cabins over the last few years. The market is peaked out, and the bargains will be gone with the ship reductions next year. Looks like over 10,000 passengers/week less.
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You see this from to time in a market. The same was true out of San Juan at one time and the Caribbean. This year it's also true of South America. They don't seem to be developing new routes fast enough.
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Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I'm not sure the intent of the OP was ever addressed. Yes Alaska is still a part of the US. That is why most AK cruises either start in Vancouver or stop in Victoria. N'est pas?
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It was my opinion the OP addressed himself.

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Yes, they are US ports.
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Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I'm not sure the intent of the OP was ever addressed. Yes Alaska is still a part of the US. That is why most AK cruises either start in Vancouver or stop in Victoria. N'est pas?
We asked why when we were on our cruise. We thought it was a bit absurd to stop in Victoria since it's so sooo close to Seattle. We were told that there is a law, it sounds more like an agreement, but they said law, that every cruise to Alaska must include a stop in a Canadian port if it isn't originating and/or concluding in Vancouver.

We just enjoyed a less crowded ship in Victoria, and skipped the customs hassle and the trip into the city. The port is in a residential area.
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It's the same reason that you can't cruise to Hawaii and back from any US port on the westcoast anymore, too. You either have to stop at Ensenada or you have to leave from Vancouver.
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For those wondering....the answer was obvious yet the point was lost on the original person asking on the blog and, it seems, by some here.

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As you said in the first post, it was obvious. Maybe the conversation just progressed, as conversations do...
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I was just in Alaska, and had a mishap & ended up in the ER (I'm OK!) but I missed my flight. The woman I spoke to from the trip insurance travel assurance company kept telling me about how things would be when I got back in the country. She KNEW I was in Alaska!

And to let folks know, for what it's worth, almost all cruise ships are *registered* in foreign countries. That's the only way they can hire all the folks from foreign countries that they do as crew and staff on the ships (especially at such relatively low pay rates). So each cruise ship MUST go to at least one foreign port as a part of the cruise. If they don't, they must be registered in the US, and hire US citizens (or documented aliens) and pay them according to US minimum payment standards. The only cruise line that does this is NCL, which has 1 cruiseship (used to be 2) registered in the US so that they don't have to leave Hawaii during the cruise (because the closest foreign port is Fanning Island, which adds 2 full days at sea to the itinerary, or sailing from the mainland, which can add up to 5 days at sea.)

The ships were not popular, however, because there was a huge turnover in staff & crew, and the level of customer service & care was way below that provided on the foreign registered cruiseships.

Upshot is: Most tours of Hawaii include Fanning Island or sail to or from Mexico or Canada. All tours of Alaska include Canada (Victoria and/or Vancouver). All tours of New England include Canada (usually Nova Scotia).

This is the law, and not an "agreement".

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Quote"Upshot is: Most tours of Hawaii include Fanning Island or sail to or from Mexico or Canada. All tours of Alaska include Canada (Victoria and/or Vancouver). All tours of New England include Canada (usually Nova Scotia). "

Cruises to Hawaii usually leave from Los Angeles or San Diego during the
fall to spring season . They all stop in Ensenada Mexico as their foreign port.
Alaska cruises from Seattle stop in Victoria a few like NCL stop in Prince Rupert instead . Vancouver is usually a start point for may cruise tours
also NB or SB cruises to Alaska (Seward or Whittier)
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