While I personally would never hesitate to book on a non-smoking ship and even prefer it I also understand that most people probably book with groups or at least with other family and friends and it always seems like Uncle Joe or Aunt Sally is a smoker and refuses to go unless they can smoke so that means that lots of folks will not book on these ships. Case in point was the CCL Paradise. Wonderful ship, clean, never smoked on, great crew and intinarary but just not sailing full because of the wayward relatives or co-workers, or friends that did smoke.
I would book a non-smoking ship in a NY minute! Perhaps if a cruise line refurbs a smaller more intimate ship, it would be easier to fill with non-smokers.
The $$ smokers vs non smokers spend may have some bearing, but I think health options, spa cruises/ treatments, sports venues and perhaps themed or other kinds of cruises could bring in non-smoking crowds. We have elderly people, religious people, families, health nuts-lots of groups could find such a cruise appealing.
I would love to go on a cruise with a bunch of cooking courses, guest chefs (food network/HGTV types) foodies often are not smokers-we still have our taste buds.
Hmm. A non-smoking ship discriminatory? I don't think so. A smoker could go on the ship-so the discrimination is regarding the behavior, not the person (race/religion/sex not being the issue) All cruise lines have rules/regulations and other guidelines. The guy who wants to wear shorts and a raggy tshirt to a formal night may feel discriminated against, but he isn't in reality. He can chose what to wear or not. Cruise lines may lose out on the slob husband market (and I know they DO!) but they have a right to set guidelines for the comfort of other passengers.
Here in the UK it seems that the Govt has chickened out of making public places no smoking zones and there will be some complicated "make your own choice" which will be impossible to control. With the enormous rise in asthma and allergy sufferers, I'm surprised that there are not more smoke free places.
Re: How many people would book a non-smoking ship?
Originally Posted by Bmaintz
We did the Conquest in 2003 & found the Degas Lounge to be smoke free, very nice..... Wish more lounges were smoke free on the Conquest such as the Karoke lounge, tried to enjoy it but was tearing up from all the smoke....
I agree with you. It seemed to me with Carnivial's new policy of smoking and nonsmoking lounges that all the lounges with the great entertainment are smoking.
The sad part is I could deal with cigerette smoke before-but now with the new policy-the smokers are limited to the lounges they can use so SMOKE is so THICK in these lounges I cannot deal with it. Heck I would think EVEN smokers would have a problem.
Anyway I used to enjoy Carnival but I do not any longer so I doubt I will ever cruise with them again.
I can understand their side though. Statistics show smokers- as a rule- spend more money-so I guess that is why smokers get the best lounges.
I never cruised on the Paradise but I had a friend that did. She told me the casino was vitually empty the whole cruise. I think that is why Paradise became a smoking ship-Carnival was losing too much money.
I can suggest something though-on Disney ships you are only allowed to smoke in the outside areas. All lounges are non smoking-even the staterooms-so if you smoke-you need to book a balcony as smoking is allowed only on the balconies and other outside areas.
I know Disney is more expensive-maybe that is one of the reasons why.
Re: How many people would book a non-smoking ship?
Originally Posted by momofmeg
Originally Posted by Barb Nahoumi
I'd book a smoke-free ship in a heartbeat. Hey, smoking is banned from airplanes, public buildings, most workplaces & restaurants----so why not cruiseships.
Well that is true in the US-not so true elsewhere-and cruisers are from all over the world-not just the US.
So true, just got back from Hong Kong...on our trips to the outer islands by boat...it was terrible...even with posted non-smoking signs, most passengers smoked...endlessly! No effort to control smokers.
My husband and I would book a non-smoking ship in a heart beat!
Passengers that smoke in designated areas do not bother me. THe dining rooms on ships are almost if not entirely all non-smoking anyway as well as the public gathering rooms ( theatre, library, conference, movie theatre) so smoking IS REALLY limited to outside on deck on one side of the ship( and the few that smoke in their rooms and disable the smoke detectors).
You can look at it this this way; Smoking is not the healthiest thing to do, but it is a legal choice for consenting adults. and although some non-smokers feel this is an infringement upon them, smokers are only allowed to smoke in designated areas mainly outside and in the casino and some lounges, they have limited areas in which to puff away, whereas non-smokers have access to the entire ship.
I would rather go on a cruise with rule abiding smokers and NO CHILDREN UNDER 18. I'm sure that child free cruises might be popluar with the childless groups as well as the parents who want to get away for a bit.
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Celebrity Century - CocoCay 01/12/06
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Celebrity Century - Freeport 01/04/07
RCL Monarch OTS - Ensenada 01/11/07
Celebrity Zenith - W. Caribbean 03/23/07
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Celebrity Millenium - PNW 09/19/08
I Truely understand your all wanting a non smoking ship. I am a smoker and I understand while we have rights, and should be able to smoke, but you all should not have to smell our smoke all the time. My wife is a non-smoker who cannot stand smoke smell.
I can see that some of the public areas get very smoky, ie casino, disco.
I think that the cruise ships can do a better job of making a smoking side and a non-smoking side (like on the pool deck).
Carnivals paridise failed cause of lack of interest, just seems like alot of people that cruise also smoke. Also it was a smaller ship and alot of people wanted to cruise the biggest ships (destiny class).
Of course I could not go on a smoke free ship, but I would like to see one, cause if people are that against smoking, they should be able to cruise without the worry of smokers.
Cause one thing I can't stand at all is someone who gives me a hard time about smoking in an area where smoking is allowed
We would book in a heartbeat. In fact the very first cruise I took my husband on was on the Smokefree Paradise, and the reason we booked the trip was because it was smoke free. The itinerary was secondary.