Under 18 curfew??

[LisaK]

I know that it should be the paren'ts responsibility to monitor their own, and it should not have to fall into the cruise lines hands, but ...........
I think this is reasonable, but it needs to have some sort of consequence.

[PartyAnimal]

I agree, one night I was at one of the night clubs trying to enjoy the band, but a two year olds parents thought it was so cute for her to run all over the dance floor. This went on for almost an hour.

[luv2cruise99]

I don't mind a reasonable curfew for unaccompanied children, but PartyAnimal, you seem to be suggesting a curfew even for kids whose parents are with them. This I don't agree with. Some of my family's best memories have been while enjoying the night clubs in the late evenings. The kids really like the music and dancing with their grandpa or with each other. We make sure they are never disruptive to anyone. If this two year old was being allowed to behave inappropriately, then cruisestaff should have stepped in and done something, but making all families with children hole up in their cabins after a certain hour would be a bit unreasonable on any cruiseline that markets to families.

[LisaK]

good point, the curfew would apply to unaccompanied kids under 18.

[Dorothy]

I strongly disagree. The teens on our cruise this past week were virtually invisible, but stayed out until 1 or 2 am.

I suppose it could be a problem with the younger set running wild, but teens tend to want to STAY AWAY from the crowds (and grown ups...). My son and his friends planted themselves in Dr. Frankenstein's Lab and stayed there, in the Gotham Lounge (just a "cut thru" kind of bar with lots of chairs) or eating on the Lido.

I would hate to see a curfew imposed that might be just right for one family, but wrong for another.

I suppose I'd like to see parents taking responsibility for their children, knowing their whereabouts and monitoring their activities a bit more, though.

dorothy

[LisaK]

You make a very valid point Dorothy, yes, the majority of teens are very responsible, but its those "few" who can spoil it for the rest of the kids, and the few rowdy ones are going to get noticed by the cruise line.
Perhaps IF a curfew was instituted it would need to be geared towards specific age groups.

[Dorothy]

That's not a bad idea, Lisa. Age appropriate curfews. I suppose the cruiselines would have a bit harder time enforcing them, but it would help. And you're right - it only takes one or two to ruin it for everybody!

You know who the most obnoxious people were on our recent cruise? A group of 20-somethings! A group of them got so drunk every night it wasn't funny. You could always tell where they were, too....

One girl passed out in one of the lounges on the last night and had to be carried to the infirmary by security. Her friend reported they delivered her bottle of alcohol to her room that she had bought in Mexico and she proceeded to drink the whole thing! She's lucky it didn't kill her...

dorothy

[username]

Originally Posted by Dorothy

I strongly disagree. The teens on our cruise this past week were virtually invisible, but stayed out until 1 or 2 am.

I suppose it could be a problem with the younger set running wild, but teens tend to want to STAY AWAY from the crowds (and grown ups...). My son and his friends planted themselves in Dr. Frankenstein's Lab and stayed there, in the Gotham Lounge (just a "cut thru" kind of bar with lots of chairs) or eating on the Lido.

I would hate to see a curfew imposed that might be just right for one family, but wrong for another.

I suppose I'd like to see parents taking responsibility for their children, knowing their whereabouts and monitoring their activities a bit more, though.

dorothy

I AGREE BUT THIS IS THE WORLD WE LIVE IN...WE HAVE ACCEPTED IRRESPONSIBLE PARENTS FOR SO LONG I THINK ITS TOO LATE TO SEE A CHANGE NOW.

[colorcrazie]

I seem to always get in trouble with parents on cruises. I don't have kids, but worked with them for a long time. One cruise, 2 boys, 11-13 yrs old, were daring each other to climb on railings. I put a stop to that and one parent happened to come by and yelled at me. Another, I was on a tour to Belize zoo and a 3 yr old tried to "pet" a crocodile. I didn't even stop to think..I just pulled the kid away. His dad was furious that I made his son "afraid of nature". My response was that some aspects of nature should be feared.
For the most part, though, I don't mind the kids on board at all. They can get rowdy at times, but most will respond to a courteous "please don't knock us old folks over when you go running by". Kids are so full of energy and joy that. for me, they add to the pleasure of cruising.
Marty

[LisaK]

Marty, i don't think that you were out of line at all. Especially when a childs personal welfare is at stake. Guaranteed if those kids got hurt, who would be the first in line yelling at the cruiseline and threating to sue for not keeping their kids safe- you know it!

[colorcrazie]

Thanks for the validation, Lisa. I didn't, and don't, feel bad about it at all. A child's safety takes priority over everything in my mind. Don't really care about consequences to me. Actually, that's not entirely true, I just don't stop and thing about anything but the kid. Too much training from working Girl Scout wilderness camps!
Marty

[jjaazzy]

There seems to be a lot of post complaining about kids. There are cruise lines that are more adult oriented. I don't like to see kids destroy a ship this would be worthy of a complaint. But, my son purchased a ticket - full price like everyone else and he really enjoys cruising. He is a very well behaved boy and I am sorry that I read these post now I am going to be on the look out for disgruntle cruisers.

[nbevins]

if we don't do it at home--why are they safer on cruiseship.Believe me i know of things that have happened on cruise ships that none of us expect.A cruiseship is small city--with usual problems.

[coach32]

I think there should be a curfew for adults that drink too much, a mandatory lecture for old timers that believe if you speak a foriegn language you should be happy to have a job and don't really need the tip and a separate dinning area for people with anoying voices. Every cruise that Ive been on has had far more adults acting like kids than kids behaving badly.

[ready2board]

It was interesting when we cruised RCI recently. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with people using the kids programs to a certain extent. But you could just tell the families who were just using it as a place to dump their kid and the others who, for the most part, wanted the kid to be a part of the family vacation WITH the parents.

The kids who stayed primarily with their families were always the well behaved, brighter looking ones. The ones who were dumped in the kids program most of the day were the smart a** types and usually hyper and obnoxious. These are probably the same ones who's parents use the home PC, TV set and local school to do their babysitting for them.

Just wonder why people take a "family" vacation just to dump their kid off for hours. Nothing wrong with adults letting loose and having a good time for a bit but what's up with the 35 yr old parents who still act like their 21?

[KarinM]

Cruise ships haven't found a way to deal with chair hogs and now you want to add this to their list???

I don't think that a curfew would help the problem at all, it would just limit those that follow the rules on their own.

[Solo1959]

Originally Posted by coach32

I think there should be a curfew for adults that drink too much, a mandatory lecture for old timers that believe if you speak a foriegn language you should be happy to have a job and don't really need the tip and a separate dinning area for people with anoying voices. Every cruise that Ive been on has had far more adults acting like kids than kids behaving badly.

Let me know when that ship is sailing, I'd love to sail on it

[j-unit]

on RCCL there is a 1am curfew for under 18, STRICTLY enforced. i (16 yr old) think curfews cause more trouble than they prevent. the group of ppl i hung out with would be hanging by the pizza place, playing cards or talking and the guards would come and kick us out. so where did we go? someones room. where do you think more troubles gonna happen, table in the middle of a crowded room or someones room where nobody sees you?

[TravelBugs]

Originally Posted by j-unit

on RCCL there is a 1am curfew for under 18, STRICTLY enforced. i (16 yr old) think curfews cause more trouble than they prevent. the group of ppl i hung out with would be hanging by the pizza place, playing cards or talking and the guards would come and kick us out. so where did we go? someones room. where do you think more troubles gonna happen, table in the middle of a crowded room or someones room where nobody sees you?

Oh, yeah, I was 16 years old once (a long time ago)

I have no problem with a group of young people (or adults for that matter!) enjoying themselves in the public areas of the ship....as long as they weren't being disruptive, destructive, disrespectful of other passengers, or in violation of any ship rules.

I've never been on RCCL. Was there another public area on the ship for your group to hang out after 1 a.m.? If not, the 1 a.m. curfew must have been implemented for your safety and protection.

Now, your statement "where do you think more troubles gonna happen, table in the middle of a crowded room or someones room where nobody sees you?" presents you as a typical teen - thus the curfew, which is an attempt to keep you safe.

I know you're gonna hate this part! But, as a parent, I guess I would have to question why any 16 year old was out and about the ship after 1 a.m. if they weren't with a parent. I know you must think I'm Sorry.....

[j-unit]

Originally Posted by TravelBugs

I've never been on RCCL. Was there another public area on the ship for your group to hang out after 1 a.m.? If not, the 1 a.m. curfew must have been implemented for your safety and protection.


I know you're gonna hate this part! But, as a parent, I guess I would have to question why any 16 year old was out and about the ship after 1 a.m. if they weren't with a parent. I know you must think I'm Sorry.....

There was a teen disco thing, but the DJ refused to play anything we wanted so we usually ended up leaving.

We were up after 1 because, thats what teens do! I met a great group of people, the type of people i dont get at my upper-class, white, conservative high school. We spent most of the nights talking in someones room because we couldnt be anywhere else! If we were sitting on the deck talking a deck patrol guy would come and thereaten to take our seapasses away.

Now, your statement "where do you think more troubles gonna happen, table in the middle of a crowded room or someones room where nobody sees you?" presents you as a typical teen - thus the curfew, which is an attempt to keep you safe.

No all im trying to say is that no matter how hard RCCL tries the vast majority of teens wont go to bet at 1am. were on vacation as well, so if that means i want to have 4 hrs. of sleep thats my perogative. So instead of pushing kids into a room where temptations are higher, keep them in the open where they'll think twice about what they do.

[TravelBugs]

J-Unit, you truly do sound like a teen. Interesting that you used the word prerogative as you did.

[j-unit]

Originally Posted by TravelBugs

J-Unit, you truly do sound like a teen. Interesting that you used the word prerogative as you did.

Dont know weather to take that as a compliment or not...
did i not use perogative right?

[TravelBugs]

It wasn't meant to be a compliment nor an insult. Just my interpretation.

I can't determine whether you've used the word prerogative in the correct context.

[rinker250]

Well, ya used it right...just didn't spell it correctly.

I think there should be a curfew available so that it can be used discriminately.

Example: Kids relaxing in the Explorer's lounge... maybe playing cards or whatever. Quiet time but still socializing. That's great and those are the kids that are not noticed.

Then you have the kids that went barreling through the casino on the Rydam. Ran into an older man just as he was getting up from our black jack table. He went flying ass over tea kettle. The kid got up and just kept running.
That's when the curfew police should net 'em and drag him to his cabin.

[TravelBugs]

Originally Posted by rinker250

Well, ya used it right...just didn't spell it correctly.

I was just trying to have a bit of fun and hoping j-unit would discover the misspellings - "weather" and "perogative"....which is why I said I couldn't determine if he used it in the correct context. Hope I didn't leave you , or

[rinker250]

Not at all

I didn't give in to the temptation to add "...among others"

I fear that computers are turning our kids illiterate.


Grammar, spelling, puncuation....going by the wayside.

Makes an intelligent kid seem...not so smart.