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kd November 17th, 2007 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian and Phyllis in Ohio
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Originally Posted by kd

I already answered the question, and no, a smoking ship won't hurt me as I would never be on it. You and those of similar ilk are free to destroy your health, enjoy your smoke. By the way, you may stay in the smoking area but your smoke certainly is not! Nor does it disappear from draperies, carpet etc. when you leave. So no, the problem is not solved. I'm out of here, arguing against smoking is such a no-brainer.

My “ilk?? Ouch. There is no need to be so vituperate.

As my old teacher once said, when you make the attack personal you have admitted you cannot win on facts alone and therefore have lost the debate.

Pity, I was not taking it personally.

Webster defines 'ilk' as "sort or kind", in other words those of similar mind or thinking. So no, there was nothing 'vituperate' (harsh condemnatory language) nor personal attack in my post. Nice word, by the way; it would be the appropriate term for frequent posts in this forum, but not this one.

Shirley Jones December 3rd, 2007 07:33 AM

:twisted: YES I WOULD AND BE HAPPY TO DO IT SMOKERS ARE PEOPLE TO AND CONFORMED SMOKERS ARE A PAIN IN THE BACKSIDE !!!!! THIS IS AMERICA LAND OF FREEDOM ?

HoustonTodd December 23rd, 2007 10:50 AM

No, no, no, never, heck no. I don't like smoke at all, but my wife can not stand it. It literally makes her sick. If we accidentally wound up on one, I would be thrown overboard and we would both be swimming back to port.

elfster February 24th, 2008 10:13 PM

The smoking ship would never pass with the cruise lines for many more reasons besides how smoke bothers non-smokers.

It would cost the ships farrrrrrr too much money to keep refurbishing the rooms and such because the nicotine and smell ruined carpets, linens, yellowed wall paints, etc, etc, etc

I smoke but NOT in my home for these reasons...makes everything smelly and yellow :cry:

fireba11 March 7th, 2008 06:48 PM

Smoke, smoke, smoke that Cigarette
 
I would without a doubt, probably would have to go alone as my significant other would have a cow!!!

I was under the impression that RCL had gone completely non smoking? I know on the cruises I have been on there are very few places to smoke except the Cigar bar and the Casino.

My2cents March 9th, 2008 07:32 PM

Single NonSmoking Ship Is Gone!
 
I sailed on a completely nonsmoking ship - Carnival's "Paradise" about 6 years ago (or about that). The last time I heard...they no longer offer that option. The ship was sold out and I was in heaven! I am highly sensitive to all types of smoke and get completely stopped up and also get migraines when around it. I can't stay in a room where a smoker has been...even after they are long gone...the cigarette smell remains and I'm immediately in trouble.

I believe the cruise lines could easily sell out a smoke free ship....as well as an all smoking ship. There are those on both sides.

ex-crewmember October 4th, 2008 09:02 AM

all smoking ship!!
 
can we smoke whilst we work on this great smoke anywhere ship? now that would be heaven, instead of hiding in the sports bar, getting dirty looks and the over-loud "oh, so this must be the smoking area". yes there's very few smoking areas on ships these days, i remember when the shows used to finish and people would pour out and smoke by the elevators, ah those we're the days.

i know this is a very old thread, but just have to give my few cents.

YES, SMOKING IS BAD FOR ME, BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE ME A BAD PERSON. i'm sick of people looking at me as if i have the plague. i'm glad i live in a country where it's ok to smoke anywhere, the non-smoking areas areas are usually one crappy table right inside the door of the restaurant....perfect, stay there and complain about the cold, now you know how i feel when in most countries i have to go outside to have a smoke!!

mmm all this talk of smoking, i'm off to have one!!

susierphillips April 17th, 2009 01:28 PM

I would not. These smoking forums always get so bad. People feel one way or another and that's that. There's no resolution to this subject ever.
I refuse to lose friends who smoke but that doesn't mean that they can smoke in my house, that's all. No biggie.

Nurse Debra September 25th, 2009 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fern
Oh, Paul,

I love your "dry" sense of humor :!: I don't think I'd book a "ship on fire" either :!:

I was just curious as to how many people would sail on a ship where you could smoke anywhere you wanted, since the "Would you book a non-smoking ship" thread had so many replies.

I made it a "Poll" because I think there are possibly many people on these boards who smoke, but don't want to say so "out loud" LOL . This way they can "vote" and not be identified :!:

BTW, I've never said whether I'm a smoker or not LOL . You'll just have to guess :!:,

Hi Fern,

IMHO most cruise lines have struck a fair balance for smokers and non-smokers. As a smoker I like the fact that there is no smoking in the dining rooms, show theaters, elevators, etc. On my last Princess cruise they had some totally non smoking days in the casino. No problem there either.

The only ships that have what is too me an unfair policy about smoking is Celebrity and RCL. On their ships there are only a few designated smoking areas and you can not smoke in your cabin or even on your own balcony. I always wait until there is no other passengers on there balconies before lighting up, but when someone says that I can not have a cigarette at 1:00am on my own balcony, that is a deal breaker for me!

As long as there is a fair balance for both smokers and non-smokers, I would sail any cruise line.

Debra

VegasCrossfire September 26th, 2009 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Nurse Debra
The only ships that have what is too me an unfair policy about smoking is Celebrity and RCL. On their ships there are only a few designated smoking areas and you can not smoke in your cabin or even on your own balcony. I always wait until there is no other passengers on there balconies before lighting up, but when someone says that I can not have a cigarette at 1:00am on my own balcony, that is a deal breaker for me!
Debra

Well, you might think nobody is on their balcony at 1AM but how do you really know? I absolutely HATE it when someone smokes on their balcony and I'm forced to either go inside or breathe their smoke. I will continue to sail on RCL and I will also continue to call the Pursers office the second I smell smoke coming from a room or balcony. Besides the smell, the last thing in the world I want is for a careless smoker to start a fire on board a ship.
I don't hate smokers....but I sure hate being near a smoker while they try to suffocate me!! :evil:

mmr555 January 20th, 2010 07:33 PM

Smoking outside.....how does that bother someone?
 
I know this is an old thread but as you can see I'm new here. I don't smoke but my husband does. He smokes outside or in the garage at home.

I don't like being in a building where there is a lot of smoke but I am just curious.......how does smoking outside in the open air bother a person? :confused:I haven't been on a cruise ship yet( planning one for next year) so maybe I'm naive but aren't balconies outside?

Be nice to the newbie!!

Martha

Fern January 20th, 2010 09:20 PM

Hi Martha, I've been curious about that myself :confused: . Some people claim the smell wafts through the air and onto their balcony. Other people (me) might notice it, but it doesn't stick around and I'm not bothered by the smell.

It reminds me of a time a roll call member tried an "experiment". We were sitting in a smoking area near the pool. No one was smoking anywhere around. He took out a cigarette and within minutes a couple of people nearby were waving their hands and "coughing". The cigarette was NOT lit rofl.

So, I think while there are those who are truly bothered by the smoke, some of the reactions are psycological.

JMHO,

colorcrazie January 23rd, 2010 04:00 PM

Fern,
I had a similar experience. I try very hard not to smoke where it can bother others. So, on cruises, I will usually haul my butt out to the aft of the ship where the wind carries it totally away from anyone. One night, I was out there and a couple came out and walked to the opposite end of the deck, then started complaining loudly to each other how horrible I was to be polluting "their" air. I was not aware that they owned it. LOL
:evil:
Marty

KellieinNapa January 23rd, 2010 05:08 PM

I think a smoking "anywhere" cruise would be successful with all the smokers we have in the world. I doubt many non-smokers would book it, but they could probably make some good profits offering this.

As for smoking outside - the smell is really strong, though I have found that most smokers don't smell it. I strongly dislike the smell of cig smoke and don't like to smell it on my balcony. But oh well - it's not the worst thing in the world!

pamlogan January 24th, 2010 09:13 PM

I have to say that I can't stand the smell of cigarette smoke and on our cruise there were a couple of times when on our balcony I went inside because our neighbours started smoking on their balcony. It didn't happen often and wasn't a problem because they were as entitled to smoke as I was to be able to sit on my balcony without the smell. I think if I was never able to sit out because of the smoke and smell drifting then I might have been more unhappy!!

katlady January 27th, 2010 02:17 PM

I'm a non smoker, but I was never a smoker so I don't care that much. The person next to me Smoking on thier Balcony doesn't brother me I barely notice it. I wouldn't book the smoking ship (unless it was a great deal), because I like to work out in the gym and it would be difficult if people were smoking in there. I can barely breathe when I work out anyway. I may be a tad out of shape.:mrgreen: Plus I'm not into the smoking on elevators idea either. That space is a bit small for smoking.

Fern January 27th, 2010 09:22 PM

katlady, I think you're like most people. It's just not a big deal unless you're "trapped" with the smoke. We hear from the "anti-smokers" and the "I'll smoke where I can smokers" when most of us are pretty tolerant.

When I was growing up most adults smoked and they smoked everywhere; at home, in elevators, in restaurants and bars, in stores, on busses, planes, trains, etc., and no one said a word about smoke bothering them.

(Okay, I've told my age :D.)

Things change...

sea1tyme February 2nd, 2010 10:13 AM

Let's put it this way. Because the smoke travels, if only a portion of this ship was designated as a smoking area, then, in my opinion, that would be considered a smoking ship. I have nothing against smokers. As someone who has had trouble with asthma symptoms in the past, I just don't want to breathe in their smoke. So I plan to stay as far away from the smoking areas as I possibly can.

luv2cruiserccl February 4th, 2010 01:50 PM

no way would i ever book any cruise on a smoking ok in all area's of the ship. As much as i love cruising i would stop if all cruise lines did that. I don't mind if there are specific area's i just make sure i avoid them.

Manuel May 7th, 2010 11:16 AM

I would like to go on a 100% smoke-free ship.

TM

Lakers Fan May 7th, 2010 10:20 PM

A 100% non smoking cruise would be ideal for me (I smoked for 24 years)

johnthed0g May 8th, 2010 08:43 AM

Only read a few posts but the point surely is ....''as a smoker do you want an all smoking cruise ship?" nothing whatsoever to do with people who don't smoke. Obviously non/ex smokers wouldn't book it & I doubt there would be enough demand.

momofmeg May 26th, 2010 04:33 PM

No I would not.

Fern May 30th, 2010 10:08 PM

I think it's interesting that this discussion is still going on! I was playing "devil's advocate" when I posted this way back in 2005! At that point I had many friends and relatives who smoked. Now, I don't think I know anyone who smokes :).

We were on the Carnival Conquest recently and enjoyed the Casino Bar (Impressions). Smoking is allowed in the Casino, but I never smelled any smoke. It seems that the ventilation is working very well.

Again, very interesting,

lhp June 5th, 2010 07:19 PM

Since this discussion started....eletronic cigarettes have become more and more marketable.

They may be the "wave" of the future. I have friends who use them when they cruise so that they can smoke anywhere they want to....they are wonderful.....

nettnut August 18th, 2010 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Fern (Post 711810)
Just to play devil's advocate, would you book a ship if smoking was allowed on most of the ship? Non-smokers could have one or two bars and one side of the pool deck.

I think a smoking ship would fill up fast !

No..........

Ring of Gold November 11th, 2010 07:35 PM

I'm an ex-smoker as well, and I didn't quit because I didn't like it!! That said though, if I walk by someone who is smoking, I'll take a nice, deep, nostalgic sniff. On the other hand, it now irritates my throat if a space is too enclosed and I'm in it for an extended period of time.

But worse than anything else is perfume! You can tell when someone has been wearing the same brand for too long by how far away you can smell them coming!!

Paul Motter November 16th, 2010 01:19 AM

The Carnival Splendor puts a new spin on this question. No, I would not have book a c ruise on that ship when it was smoking - because all the toilets and elevators were dead.

(sorry, but that is what I think everytime I see this question about "a smoking ship.")

Bottom line - I did smoke for many years, and now I actually kind of like second hand smoke. One's first cigarette makes you loopy, nauseated and a little loopy, but I sure liked smoking when I did it.

I quit twice in my life - once form age 25 - 35, and again from age 39 - now. I like the smell of it and even a whiff. I just never smoke a cigarette because I knowe that if I had just one I would be off to the races and full fledge smoker again.

BUt I had that experience of introducing nicotine to my body and getting past the in initial nausea and headaches. If a person has never, ever smoked I imagine they might gets headaches and nausea if they get over exposed to second hand smoke.

HawkeyeFLA November 16th, 2010 04:22 AM

So I have a question here. I've never been in a balcony cabin, but unless the ship is in port, we're moving at what? An average of 17 - 20 knots right? So in mere seconds, the air around you is moved around and probably replaced by air up ahead of the ship.

Oh, and if (strong if there) I am still a smoker next time I cruise, I'm going to try the trick of pulling a cigarette out and not lighting it and just have it animated in my hand. Of course I'm a bit in your face at times, and if someone starts making the coughing and waving of hands, I will walk up them and point out its not lit, just to see their reaction.

As for smoking ships, I said on the Costa Atlantica last year out of Lauderdale. Smoking pretty much everywhere except the food areas.

I will say, after reading this thread from beginning to end, there are some down right rude nonsmokers out there in cruise land. Some of us want to quit, and its not the easiest task, but we don't need you throwing all of it in our face every other post, for serious.

ouachita January 7th, 2011 01:47 PM

I am a life long non-smoker who has been around smokers (family menbers and co-workers) all my life. I tend toward a libetarian view that the owners of any business should be able to establish any policy they like as far as the extent of smoking they want to allow in their business. If I don't like their policy or practices I am free to take my business elsewhere - that's true whether I am a smoker or not. That being said I would not book a cruise where comparatively unrestricted smoking was allowed. It just wouldn't be worth the hassle and personal effects smoke has on me.

I have to say that the cruise lines are not fools and realize that we are free to take our business where we please and have, IMHO, reached a pretty reasonable compromise in their policies to accomodate MOST smokers and non-smokers. Like politics there will always be those who occupy the extreme positions on both sides of the issue but most of us can reasonably co-exist. I'm sure the cruise companies want to maximize their profits and try to accomodate both for that reason.

I've been on 5 cruises and never encountered a situation that I couldn't tolerate or easily adjust to.


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