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Old October 7th, 2007, 09:39 PM
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Default RCCL to have very restrictive smoking policv beginning...

After speaking to a customer service agent with RCCL, I was talking about group cruises, I asked about the new smoking policy on RCCL - well, it is the most restrictive policy thus far...

I realize that you non-smokers are chomping at the bit, saying YEAH for us...so here goes ...

NO SMOKING IN ANY OF THE CABINS, AT ALL - FACE A HEFTY FINE!

NO SMOKING IN ANY OF THE BARS AND LOUNGES, CLUBS, ETC. FACE A VERY HEFTY FINE!

THE ONLY PLACE YOU MAY SMOKE IS IN THE CASINO OR OUTSIDE ON DECK AND THAT WILL BE RESTRICTED TO CERTAIN DECKS ONLY ON CERTAIN SHIPS...

Well, there it is non-smokers - run do not walk to book RCCL.

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Cool !

Now brace yourself for all the "non-smoking laws wiped out the family diner in my hometown that had been owned by 9 generations" stories lol

Seriously though, kudos to RCI for this bold move.
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I must say I'm pleased to hear this - my parents won't be cruising but they hate boats (ships whatever) anyway. I like to be able to take my kids anywhere on the ship (okay they don't need to be in the casio so I'll allow it there) during the day and not have to walk them through someone's cloud of chemicals!
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Too bad they still allow smoking in the casino. When I took a 7 night cruise on the Freedom a few months ago there was 1 night designated as smoke free night. It was the busiest night the casino had all week! "Non-smoking tables" don't work because the smoke that drifts from nearby tables doesn't know that it is not allowed there!
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I don't know if any of you remember when the entire Marriott Chain went smoke free, and there was one other hotel chain around the same time. The analysts all said that it would hurt business but yet neither chain is reporting any downward momentum due to the change and some reported that their business had actually increased because even the smokers liked the fresh rooms.

Bold for RCI, but time alone will tell how it will work out for them.
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Maybe this'll get hubby to reconsider.
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When did this happen ???? I just came off Liberty OT Seas 2 weeks ago. True there is no smoking in cabins & there shouldn't be. However you can smoke on the balcony. Approximately half of the bar/lounges were non-smoking & half were smoking. Yes, smoking in the casino. Don't know who you got your info from ??
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PRESS RELEASE

New Smoking Policy Onboard Royal Caribbean Ships Mirrors Growing Trend Towards Smoke-Free Environment
Vitality Wellness Program Continues To Bring a Breath of Fresh Air Fleetwide

MIAMI, July 23, 2007 - In time to help guests set their New Year's resolutions for a healthier lifestyle, Royal Caribbean International announces a new smoking policy onboard its ships, effective January 2008. To bolster the cruise line's new Vitality wellness program, recently debuted on Liberty of the Seas - the newest vessel to share the title of the world's largest cruise ship with sister-ship, Freedom of the Seas - Royal Caribbean is increasing smoke-free zones by designating all staterooms and one lounge on each ship in its fleet as non-smoking areas. The new policy will go into effect aboard 18 of the line's 21 ships initially, with Legend of the Seas, Rhapsody of the Seas and Splendour of the Seas following suit with the 2008 summer season.

"Feedback from our guests was a driving force behind the new Vitality program and our focus on wellness," said Alice Norsworthy, senior vice president, Marketing, Royal Caribbean International. "Results from online polls as well as input from all of our international offices worldwide, show very strong support of the new smoking policy. These changes reflect a more contemporary approach to healthier lifestyles and will significantly improve the cruise vacation experience for our guests."

Currently, smoking is prohibited in guest hallways and corridors, restaurants, entertainment venues and most of the ship's interior public spaces except for designated areas in bars and lounges. The new policy will add all guest staterooms and suites, and one bar or lounge on every Royal Caribbean ship onto the roster of smoke-free spaces. Guests wishing to smoke may still do so from starboard outer decks, in designated areas in bars and lounges, and on stateroom and suite balconies. Ashtrays are available in designated smoking areas or by request through stateroom attendants. Violations of the smoking policy will result in cleaning charges to the guest's onboard account and may also be addressed through the line's Guest Conduct Policy, details of which are available both online and in all staterooms.


Royal Caribbean's Vitality wellness program was designed to encourage and introduce ways for guests to achieve a better balance in their lives. The program presents healthier lifestyle choices across every aspect of the cruise experience, including fitness classes and spa treatments, onboard and land-based activities, shore excursions, and healthful drinks and food selections. Guests have the choice to try one or two elements or enjoy the total Vitality wellness experience to begin a more balanced approach to healthier living.

Royal Caribbean International is a global cruise brand with 21 ships currently in service and three under construction. The line also offers unique land-tour vacations in Alaska, Asia, Australia, Canada, Europe and New Zealand through its cruisetour division.
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[i]Yes, this states that there is no smoking in the cabins & 1 no smoking lounge. There were actually a few no smoking lounges. I'm a smoker & have no problem splitting it half & half.
On the Liberty January 3rd. sailing.... Bars / Lounges.....

SMOKING
Pool Bar
Casino Bar
Sky Bar
The Sphinx
Hoof & Claw Pub
Boleros
Olive or Twist (Viking Lounge)
Cigar Club
The Catacombs

NO SMOKING
Promenade Bar
Sqeeze Bar
Solarium Bar
Wipe Out Bar
Plaza Bar
Sorrento's Bar
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Schooner Bar
Champagne Bar
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It would be pretty hard to eliminate from the cigar bars!
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Thank you so much for pointing out where all the smokers are allowed to still smoke. While I quit a few years ago, my husband still smokes and it would cut out alot of people to have no place for smokers to go. I get very tired of non-smokers dictating where smokers should be. Believe me smokers know they are talked about, pointed at and they also know what you non-smokers are thinking. If you choose to smoke fine, if you dont fine. We need to find a happy medium... If you dont want to be around the smoke... go someplace where there is no smoking.
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jadainca, in response to your statement, a smokers right to smoke ends at the tip of my nose! If smokers didn't exhale, there wouldn't be much of a problem, but being that they do, how do you keep the smoke from
being carried to the "space" of us who prefer the fresh sea air? Get my "drift"
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well, i'll get brought down in flames for this, but: cruise lines like ncl and rcl have become 'high and mighty' in recent months, with themes like 'vitality' and so forth. but, believe me, if they could now fill their empty cabins with smokers they would, and some of these restrictions will be coming down. we all need to have reasonable alternatives, not threats of being 'expelled' from the ship or 'excessive fines.' i am a smoker, but i am willing to abide by rules if they are not vindictive or threatening. why would i go on any line to live under the threat of punishment? most folks abide by rules on cruise ships -- at least the better ones -- once they know what the policies are; these should be made clear before booking.
as i recall, maybe incorrectly, the carnival paradise was at one time a nonsmoking ship; and it went bust. so, come on, flame me.
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"You must have balance, grasshopper" " You must find focus!"
The cruise lines publish their policies and are available to read on line at their websites. Learn about where you can and cannot smoke.
I smoke; I abide by the rules! Life is short, enjoy your cruise.
Smokers and non-smokers alike, quit *****ing and relax.
It's a cruise!!!!!!
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"You must have balance, grasshopper" " You must find focus!"
The cruise lines publish their policies and are available to read on line at their websites. Learn about where you can and cannot smoke.
I smoke; I abide by the rules! Life is short, enjoy your cruise.
Smokers and non-smokers alike, quit *****ing and relax.
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ok, devil's advocate time; time to be flamed.... why not have smoking and non-smoking rooms/decks as they do in many motels and hotels? i,e, 'would you like smoking or non-smoking?' or why not ask non-smokers to visit portions of the decks reserved for them; like smokers are required to do? only fair. and how about 'alcohol free' staterooms and balconies and lounges, since overindulgence does just as much harm as over-smoking? and alcohol-free tables in the dining venues? enforced, with heavy fines to boot. and a rules against thongs and such at the pools; after all, that is sexual pollution to some. and on and on and on. the ventilation systems of most new ships are far better than those of older hotels. i personally am offended by crabby people pushing in front of me in buffet lines, or saving lounges by the pool and not using them, or grabbing seats in the show room and saving them until the show starts -- how about fines for these good folks; after all, their actions raise my blood pressure and increase my risk of a stroke just as much as a good cigarette. and finally, how about gals who wear the strongest, most offensive perfumes ever marketed -- another dose of jungle gardenia, and i'm gone. and no perfumes on balconies, either. so, there
ps: and offensive photo-takers, pushy lido drink hawkers, etc./ also are a health hazzard; more fines and punishment -- and lawsuits. a pushy photo taker caused me to have a heart attack. this could go on forever; folks, it is time to live and let live.
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I don't know what this actual change is all about. Looks the same as last April when we were on the Enchantment. They were very strict about it then and I don't see any differences in this "new Policy".
It's good, I agree.
As long as it's still legal, it's good to make accomodation for smokers, but no one should have it in their face constantly. Plus, it really smells in the halls when people smoke in their staterooms. They weren't allowed last April. My big worry is fire. People smoking in bed and that sort of thing.
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ok, devil's advocate time; time to be flamed.... why not have smoking and non-smoking rooms/decks as they do in many motels and hotels? i,e, 'would you like smoking or non-smoking?'
The cruise lines will be the first to tell you that this won't work. It will potentially leave them with unsold inventory on some cruises. What happens if you have one side of one deck allocated to smoking cabins? On that particular cruise, the smoking cabins just don't fill up. Now you are going to have a serious problem filling those cabins because non-smokers are not going to want to be located there. They would be in the middle of a whole row of smoking cabins, with the odor of cigarette smoke "in their face" every minute they spend in their cabin. Better to just have the smokers interspersed among the non-smokers. At least then they won't be concentrated in one area that could be very difficult for a non-smoking to be in.

I too think this RCL policy is dumb. I can't for the life of me see how someone smoking in their cabin, behind closed doors, is gonna present that much of a problem to their non-smoking neighbors. Unless that smoker literally spends every waking minute in their cabin, puffing away, the problem shouldn't be that bad. In fact, if I were RCL, I would sooner prohibit any smoking whatsoever on the balconies, but allow it in the cabins. Balcony smokers are far more intrusive to their neighbors. You have someone who is perhaps suffering from aesthma who spent good money to get a balcony, and now they can't use it because there are smokers on both sides of them ... smokers who purposely go out onto their balconies when they want to light up because perhaps the people with whom they are sharing their cabin don't want smoking inside the cabin. But, if you allow smoking in the cabins, and not on the balconies, the smokers are really not infringing that much on the rights of their non-smoking neighbors. Even if some of the odor wafted out into the hallways, just how much time do people spend in the hallways? They merely walk through them to get from point A to point B. But when people pay for a balcony, they generally do so because they want to spend some leisurely time out there. Put a smoker on every side of them ... a smoker who will probably be smoking on his balcony for a goodly amount of time because he can't light up in his cabin ... and that could present serious "issues" for the non-smoker who now can't enjoy a balcony he paid a hefty sum to have.

I prefer to vote with my money. RCL put this policy into place. It's their right to do so. But it's also my right not to sail on their ships, and I won't do so as long as I can't smoke in my cabin. I will not pay a chunk of change for a balcony I would ordinarily not get just so that I can enjoy the privilege of smoking during my cruise. So, I'll just take my money ... and my pack of cigarettes ... elsewhere. Simple enough.

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