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Old May 12th, 2008, 09:22 PM
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This time an NCL ship heading south from NYC and passing Atlantic City, a woman went missing overboard. I don't understand the possibility of these actions unless there is something very wrong that we don't know anything about. It is a sad situation.
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Suicide by cruise ship..very sad indeed:(
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ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. - Foul weather Monday forced the U.S. Coast Guard to stop searching for a woman passenger who fell overboard from a cruise ship off the Atlantic City coast.

The Norwegian Dawn was headed for Bermuda from New York City when the 46-year-old woman went overboard at about 7:50 p.m. Sunday, cruise officials said.

In a statement, the cruise line said the ship immediately began a search and rescue operation, but did not provide further details. On Monday, the Coast Guard said continuing winds over 50 mph and heavy rain prevented it from resuming the search.

Neither the cruise line nor the Coast Guard released the passenger's name or residence.

Our thoughts and prayers remain with the family and friends of the guest during this difficult time," said Norwegian Cruise Line spokeswoman AnneMarie Mathews.

The Coast Guard said the ship was approximately 45 miles northeast of Atlantic City when the woman was reported overboard Sunday night. It departed from a pier in Manhattan at 4 p.m.

The Coast Guard said it was initially notified Sunday night at approximately 8:21 p.m. A helicopter crew from Atlantic City launched at 9 p.m., and arrived on scene at about 9:43 p.m. The helicopter crew conducted search patterns until 10:53 p.m.

Then a rescue helicopter crew from a Coast Guard station in Cape Cod, Mass. arrived at the scene at 12:05 a.m. Monday, and conducted search patterns until 3:05 a.m. when it returned to base due to inclement weather.

The vessel was cleared to proceed on its scheduled itinerary and is set to arrive in Bermuda









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I wonder if these are all suicide and not perhaps foul play. What a tragedy to lose all hope. Depression can be so demonic........MD
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It's sad. However, cruise ships are probably a fairly natural place for this to happen since many people who kill themselves often, for reasons no one quite understands, go to areas where there is water...Lakes, the ocean etc. Many also go to higher elevations such as a hill or mountain top.
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The cruise line verified she was alone in the cabin at the time. Either a tragic accident or a sad case.
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We in Jersey are getting alot of coverage on this story the woman was from Jersey.

The news reported last nite that the boyfriend was in the cabin when it happened and he claims she was trying to climb from their balcony onto the balcony next door and lost balance and fell.

There are still alot of missing pieces.

Maybe it did happen the way the man claims but maybe it was foul play.

Time will tell.

So sad for the woman and her family.
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Now I see on the news that she was NOT alone. Her boyfreind was with her and said she was on the top rail, funning around and slipped. My, my, my. Whay do people tempt fate?
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the report I saw siad she was trying to get from one balcony to another.
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The FBI is investigating. If it turns out to be a suicide, it is tragic of course, but to put it in perspective, a single bridge, the Golden Gate took 1,200 lives before they stopped counting, roughly 1 every two weeks. The only reason this incident even makes the news is because it was on a cruise ship.

If on the other hand it turns out she was just drunk or horsing around, since these incidents seem to be on the rise, then perhaps it is time they institute a one query questionnaire at the time of embarkation: Are you a moron? 1. yes 2. no.
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Ah, but would the morons understand the question?

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Now I see on the news that she was NOT alone. Her boyfreind was with her and said she was on the top rail, funning around and slipped. My, my, my. Whay do people tempt fate?
Sadly,people can be protected from their own stupidity
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Now I see on the news that she was NOT alone. Her boyfreind was with her and said she was on the top rail, funning around and slipped. My, my, my. Whay do people tempt fate?
Sadly,people can be protected from their own stupidity
And if you do try to protect them, they sue you for it.
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If on the other hand it turns out she was just drunk or horsing around, since these incidents seem to be on the rise, then perhaps it is time they institute a one query questionnaire at the time of embarkation: Are you a moron? 1. yes 2. no.
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Well Princess kind of does. You fill out the basically one question questionnaire asking if you have been ill in the previous 24 hours. IMHO-If anyone answers yes to this they are a moron.
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Touche' snoozeman and you are right. I remember that dumb thing from our Princess cruise this spring
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Heard on either Fox News or CNN, that the cruiseline has video of this women going overboard...but they weren't releasing information to the media. Sounds to me like the FBI is studying it to see if there is evidence of foul play...if it's grainy or dark...may be taking some time to analyze, because I've not heard anything since.

I know that I love leaning on the railing and watching the beautiful water...but always worry that it might not be secure enough....so never fully rest my weight on it. Wonder if anyone has ever fallen because a latch/lock gave way and the passenger fell? Bet if that was on video...we'd never know about it.

So sad to keep hearing these stories...it gives cruising a bad name for those who've only considered this type vacation. I'll keep going...just not putting weight on those railings when searching for dolphins, flying fish and the like.
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No my two cents, the strength of the rail was never in question at all. Also to the FBI has determined that there was no foul play. Apparently just another case of a moron removing herself from the gene pool. Here is part of the article quoted from Cruisemates cruise news:

<<The FBI says it doesn't think a crime was committed earlier this week when nurse Mindy Jordan fell to her death from a balcony aboard the cruise ship Norwegian Dawn.

The director of the bureau's New York office says the agency has concluded its initial investigation on board the Norwegian Dawn in Bermuda and has found no signs of foul play.

"Our objective is first to rule out whether or not there was a crime here, and thus far the evidence - the information we have acquired - does not suggest a crime," FBI spokesman, Mark Mershon, said. "But that is not definitive; we have a number of investigative steps we have yet to deploy."

Mindy Jordan of Pine Hill, N.J., fell off the Dawn at about 7:50 PM on Sunday, just hours after it had set sail from New York on a one-week cruise to Bermuda. Norwegian says the ship immediately began a search and rescue operation and called the U.S. Coast Guard, which dispatched several helicopters, but Jordan wasn't found. The Coast Guard called off the search late Monday.

Norwegian announced Wednesday that surveillance cameras had captured Jordan's fall on tape and prove that she was alone at the time -- countering speculation that she had been the victim of foul play. The line says she had been trying to climb from balcony to balcony on the ship -- an extremely dangerous maneuver.>>
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If the young woman was climbing from balcony to balcony I would have to assume there was drinking involved. As the mother of young adults who have done stupid things when they had a little too much and remembering back to when I had done more than my fair share of stupid things after drinking a little too much I would like to share my thoughts on some of the responses. It would break my heart if I was a relative of the woman and saw the word "moron" associated with her. Unless, of course, you yourselves had never done anything stupid. Regardless of what she did, I am sure the family will always look upon her as wonderful and not moronic. My heart goes out to them.
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Suzan sorry to offend you. I've done some stupid things, but trying to crawl form one balcony to another in 18 foot seas is not one of them. There are degrees of stupidity. As I say I feel sorrow and compassion for her family. You are probably not a fan of the annual Darwin awards -- I am. she will surly be #! this year. She deserves the "honor."
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