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Trip August 5th, 2008 11:15 PM

Entry denied?
 
Have you ever personally witnessed anyone ejected from, or being denied entry to, the dining room because of their attire? How did this go over? Shouting, fighting, embarrassment?

With all the talk of do's and don'ts.......

I have only been witness to to one incident, a woman on the Mercury being asked to leave....I then saw a man come in, dressed in similar attire, and, I asked the same maitre'd if he was going to ask the same of the man....he said he would, but never did.

Marc August 5th, 2008 11:54 PM

Once, on informal night on Seven Seas Voyager, a gentlemen forgot to wear a jacket. After a reminder from Maitre' D, he went back to his cabin to get his coat.

FirstCoastCruiser August 6th, 2008 12:10 AM

I have seen someone refused entry to the dining room on Carnival wearning worn jeans and a sleeveless t-shirt. It was not the first night so there really is no excuse IMO. He left without incident but I never noticed if he returned or not.

cutiecat August 6th, 2008 10:16 AM

On the Brilliance of the Seas in June 2 of our table mates returned late from an excursion and came wearing shorts and T-shirts. The DR staff at the door would not let them in.

skymaster August 6th, 2008 11:28 AM

Aboard "Mariner of the Seas" everyday at lunch in the dining room, men (including me) were asked to remove their hats, or caps upon entering the dining room. Just as soon as they sat down, the hats and caps were usually put right back on their heads, and nothing more was ever said about it, until the next day, when we were once again asked to remove our covers? No one was ever ejected, but no one ever refused to remove their hat, (until they sat down)? Seemed strange to me, but it was a regular thing aboard that ship?????

Ken
"Sky"

Mike M August 6th, 2008 12:32 PM

Triplet,

Off the top of my head I can't think of anyone being turned away. I also can't think of any instant, in all of my cruises, of seeing anyone flagrantly violating the evening dress code.

I know I would remember a flagrant violation.

I know I felt so "naughty" when I wore jeans to Mama's Italian restaurant on NCL. (perfectly acceptable and within the dress code) LOL

I do know I have been "overdressed" among my tablemates when I have worn a jacket and tie on informal nights on Celebrity and a sports jacket on Royal Caribbean.

Take care,
Mike

Trip August 6th, 2008 12:49 PM

Last summer, at our table the dining room on the Conquest, we had 2 couples that knew each other. On formal night, one couple came dressed formally, the other, not so much...The man was dressed in jeans and a white shirt, open, with a white tee shirt.

Oldsalt August 6th, 2008 01:36 PM

I was always taught as a young child to always remove my hat indoors,and sitting down to eat with a hat has always been a no no.
Now if you are a cowboy they say leaving your Stetson on is Ok.

mehawk August 6th, 2008 03:34 PM

I haven't seen anyone turned away but I have seen some poorly dressed people.

Magnolia Blossom August 6th, 2008 05:21 PM

On the Pearl lasyt summer our family was turned away the first night because our dtr and SIL were in jeans. Their luggage had not arrived and it has always been customary to relax the dress code the first night.
They were very polite and directed us to the other dining room. (NCL has the best of both worlds in that the two main dining rooms are divided by dressy and decent jeans attire). They nicely escorted us to the other dining room and saw that we did not have to wait in line again.

I actually was pleased that they made a rule and stuck to it.

I've been on several ships and seen people turned away at supper for shorts. Even a Carnival ship! However, I've never seen them ask men to remove their caps. My grandmother would roll over in her grave if anyone had come to dinner with a hat on.

skymaster August 6th, 2008 05:35 PM

I agree, that you absolutely shouldn't eat dinner with your hat on,,,but if you look at my post it was LUNCH. Not that it makes a lot of difference, but having skin cancer I have to wear a hat to keep my face out of the sun. (I'm so damned handsome anyway... :x My wife says I look just like Tom Selick,,,,,,except that I'm slightly shorter,,,,,,,and my face is different ) I think at lunch, people just didn't know what to do with their caps when they took them off. If you put it under your chair, or in your lap, you forget them. (Give me a break,,,,I'm OLD) Anyway, they didn't object to them being worn at the table,,,,just when you walked to the table? Made no sense to me....

Ken
"Sky"

NY Cruisin Mama August 7th, 2008 01:08 AM

Well, when I was a child and growing up - a man removing his hat
was a sigh of respect for the ladies in his company. I wonder - if a woman was wearing a hat in the dining room - either a sun hat or a dressy cocktail hat for formal nite - would SHE be asked to remove
her hat ?? Doubt it but that's what's funny about etiquette. :wink: :-?

green_rd August 7th, 2008 03:31 PM

I imagine hast go back on at the table so they are not left behind. Nobody wants to stare at that thing on the table while they eat.

Mike M August 7th, 2008 05:24 PM

In the "old day" your hat would be placed in the cloak room. Now the hat should be placed under the chair. It is never acceptable to wear your hat at the table.

I know when I was growing up that if I wore my hat at the table it was promptly removed for me, by my mother or father, and used to swat me across the head. LOL

It's hard for me to wear a hat, which I always do, at almost any sit down eating situation, even a picnic table.

For a woman, the old double standard comes out. It is perfectly acceptable for them to wear hats at the table. It is considered fashionable. I don't really think a baseball cap is fashionable but I guess it covers up "hat hair". LOL

Take care,
Mike

skymaster August 7th, 2008 09:00 PM

WOW,,,I opened a can of worms here didn't I? :D I agree though,,,we really shouldn't wear our hat at the table,,,lunch, or dinner,,,,,unless you're a woman,,,,,or course. O.K.,,,I'm ducking now. :evil:

Ken
"Sky"

ferrangi August 8th, 2008 03:19 PM

on my cruise last year (1st cruise), I accidentally wore my thongs (flip flops) in the main dining room, 2 nights in a row... it wasn't until we were just about done the second night that I realized I wasn't suppposed to...
It's just a habit, my thongs are my favorite shoes... and the fanciest dining we do here at home is Olive garden... LOL
I was embarressed but no one said anything to me... :oops:
I would have gone back to my cabin and changed my shoes, If they would have pointed it out to me... :-?

NY Cruisin Mama August 9th, 2008 02:09 AM

Just received some News from Celebrity Cruises about some changes for the 2009 season regarding menus and dining rooms. Soundsa like they are changing
and adding new features to the menus which is a good thing. Also, Celebrity mentioned that they are 'going back" to 3 formal nites per 7 day
cruises. Great - and they also stated that if you were not comfortable with the "formal" requirement - you were welcome ot dine in any other dining venue on the ship. NOW IF THEY ONLY ENFORCE IT !!

Trip August 9th, 2008 09:53 AM

While I like to dress up. 3 formal nights on a 7 dayer is a bit much for me.

Mike M August 9th, 2008 11:06 AM

Three formal nights on a seven day cruise is overkill IMO. In the last 10 years Celebrity hasn't had three formal nights on a seven day cruise. I don't know how many they had when they started in the early 90's.

Take care,
Mike

skymaster August 11th, 2008 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike M
Three formal nights on a seven day cruise is overkill IMO. In the last 10 years Celebrity hasn't had three formal nights on a seven day cruise. I don't know how many they had when they started in the early 90's.

Take care,
Mike

I agree Mike. We've been sailing Celebrity for a long long time. (I actually paid to join the Captains Club) I don't remember ever having 3 formal nights on a seven day cruise, and I agree that this is OVERKILL! That may be the last straw for me, and I doubt that I'll do Celebrity, ever again. Sad,,,as Celebrity was my favorite for many years.

Ken
"Sky"

Trip August 11th, 2008 09:40 AM

While my last cruise on the Century was less than stellar in the food and service catagories, I would sail them again, and do formal for the 2 nights I choose, and then either dine elsewhere, or do resort casual. I will cruise Celebrity again, if the right cruise comes along.

katlady August 11th, 2008 10:59 AM

Ferrangi when you said "my thongs" I wasn't thinking shoes and I was wondering now the dining room staff was checking that. LOL But then you said (flip flops) so I got it. :wink: Okay I found the low down on hats for men.
http://artofmanliness.com/2008/03/01...-back-the-hat/
Hat Etiquette
In adopting the hat as your signature piece, you must also accept the responsibility of hat etiquette. Often ignored, hat etiquette will show that your uniqueness extends not only to you choice of headwear, but to your manners as well.

Promptly remove your hat upon entering an elevator, restaurant, or someone’s home. Never wear your hat during a meal.
Touch the brim of your hat lightly when greeting a friend.
Raise the hat by the crown when meeting a female friend in public.
Remove your hat during the national anthem and place it over your heart.

For the ladies http://www.hatsbyhazel.com/ladies_hat_etiquette.php
Ladies hat etiquette differs greatly from men's hat etiquette. The following tips will help you avoid a faux pas when you step out in style!

(The following etiquette only applies to ladies hats, not baseball caps or men’s hats)

It is appropriate for ladies to wear their hats inside a church.

It is appropriate for a lady to wear a hat into a theatre. She may leave it on during the show unless it blocks the vision of those behind her.

It is appropriate for a lady to leave their hat on when indoors and during the National Anthem. However, if she is wearing a baseball cap, or men's style hat, it should be removed.
I like this hat.
http://www.villagehatshop.com/media/....jpg&width=375

NY Cruisin Mama August 11th, 2008 11:08 AM

Geez - I simply mentioned that Celebrity was thinking of more formal nites!!!!!!!!! Again, you can eat and dress however you wish - that's why
there are numerous places to eat on the ships. :cry: :cry:

Trip August 11th, 2008 02:57 PM

Sherrie,
No one is killing the messenger:):) It just seems that the line is going againist the current way of thinking.....with baggage regs as tight as they are now, it seems, to me anyway, that this extra night is superfluous.....


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