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Has anyone ever been on a sober cruise? There is a company Called Sober Cruises/Vacations that does select cruising throughout the year. Anyone been on one? Any input would be helpful.
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Every cruise I take is a "Sober Cruise". I don't drink! I never heard of a sober cruise, and frankly, can't imagine that one of the major lines would do a sober cruise, without really cranking up the price. They've GOT to make a ton of money on the booze they sell on a normal cruise. (Not from me, but they haven't figured that out yet.) I'm sure somebody must sponser a sober cruise, as they have almost any other "themed" cruise that you can think of.

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It might be interesting to do a sans alcohol cruise. It would be even better if it were smoke free as well.

I also expect the fare would be abit higher.


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Has anyone ever been on a sober cruise? There is a company Called Sober Cruises/Vacations that does select cruising throughout the year. Anyone been on one? Any input would be helpful.
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I don't drink very except for an occasionally glass of wine or beer.
So the company loses money when I cruise.
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I enjoy a drink now and then. When I am on a cruise I enjoy it a lot more.

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Has anyone ever been on a sober cruise? There is a company Called Sober Cruises/Vacations that does select cruising throughout the year. Anyone been on one? Any input would be helpful.
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Tattoowired,

Sober cruises is a "group cruise" and not a full charter so there will be many other people onboard who do drink so it is not an alcohol free cruise.

I just looked at their pricing and while it is not outrageous, it is significantly higher than the going rate. For their "Spring Fling" cruise their pricing is $880 for a balcony and Carnival is selling an 8A balcony for $725. (All taxes and port fees included) This is under their "Early Saver" discount.

This may NOT be an apples to apples comparison because I do not know if anything additional is include in Sober Cruises pricing. I.E. Shore Excursions, group events...etc. Also I do not know if port fees and taxes are included in Sober Cruises pricing. I also don't know if Sober Cruises will lower their price to match or come closer to Carnival's.

On almost every cruise there are Friends of Bill W. meetings. This is a great way to help people enjoy the cruise without being tempted by the sale of alcohol.

Take care and have a fantastic time on whatever cruise you choose.
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This is a very serious question and some of the answers here are the very reason why people in AA - especially newly sober, need to be concerned.

I fully understand the desire of some people to go on a sober full ship charter, and there are such cruises. BUt most sober groups travel together on regular cruises, which is almost as good but you have to uderstand you will see people drinking.

The point is that many alcoholics newly in recovery are not comfortable in a setting where there is easy access to alcohol. If you can't close down the bars - which full ship sober cruises do - then the next best thing is to have a large support group who can keep the newly sober person company so they are not tempted or distracted by the alcohol onboard.

It is important for people newly in recovery to hear the message of the benefits of recovery from people who have been through the process of getting and staying sober. Unfortunately, people who have no experience with people in recovery often say the wrong things: "what harm can one drink do?" or "why don't you take 12 steps out the door so the rest of us can have some fun?"

Most of us have something we cannot resist; whether it is a certain food, cigarettes, gambling, sex, etc. We over-indulge. To understand what it is like for the newly recovered alcoholic on a cruise ship - imagine that you are cruising and you have just started a strict diet. And then imagine you just fasted for 24 hours and now they are serving breakfast - but your diet is so strict nothing they are serving is on it. You are hungry and you smell the food, but you can't eat anything they have. How likely do you think you would be to break your diet (remember, the food is right there and you are starving and no one onboard knows about your diet). That is what it is like for the newly recovered alcoholic to be in a drinking setting. The chances are far lower that they will slip if the temptation is not right in front of them and/or they have people close by who can help them keep control.

The whole point of AA is to strengthen your spirit so you become more empowered not to drink, by listening to the stories of people who have conquered their addictions and who are there to talk the newcomer through the process. But it takes time to do that. Until they get there it is best to avoid drinking situations and to keep company with people in recovery.

For the newly sober "drunk" - one FOB meeting every other day is not enough. You really need full immersion with other sober people. For people with a year or more of sobriety, a cruise is almost always just fine, but anyone with 30 days or less I would not recommend cruising unless you have a sober support group with you.

For the first 30 days quitting drinking is like quitting smoking - you are far less likely to relapse if you dont have a cigarette staring you in the face.

Another benefit to the sober cruises is that they tend to get the most inspirational speakers and they have at least two meeting each day. This is the best situation for people newly in recovery.

Your ability to deal with a "sober cruise" situation depends on how honest you are with your own ability to be around alcohol. There are bars on ships, but if having a support group is enough to keep you clean then there shouldn't be a problem.
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Tattoowired,
Mike is correct SoberCruises.com is a group cruise, we organize several cruises throughout the year to a number of locations.
Our pricing for the "Spring Fling" cruise does include taxes and port charges, the example Mike provided is not really an apples to apples comparison the price quoted on our website is for an"8B' cabin, the example he provided is for Carnivals "Early Saver" which after you read the fine print has some significant restrictions, ours is a fully refundable, fully transferable fare, and also includes all of the daily group meetings and workshops.
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Hi Brett, thanks for the clarification.

I think you will find the standard cruise quote includes port charges (Non-commissionable fees or NCFs) but not taxes. To make it easier for people to compare it might be better to make your quotes that way.

Keep in mind, though, that a sober cruise has added meetings, special speakers, group activities. It is more like a convention cruise than just a sober cruise. One should expect to pay some premium.
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There is a company that books sober cruises called Sober Cruises (I"m sure there are others). They sennt me some info on upcoming vacations this year. One was an Alaskian cruise in late June. Is that a good time to go to Alaska? Or will the weather be to cold?
Thanks to all of you that have posted to my querry. I know there are Friends of Bill meetings on cruises..... are they well supported? I love to learn more about cruises. My first experience was not the greatest but again it had more to do with lack of support on my behalf. It's different when you travel alone, although some of my best vacations were by myself. I tend to be a loner anyway.
If anyone could relate their experiences traveling as a Single please share them. I would be most appreciative.
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There is a company that books sober cruises called Sober Cruises (I"m sure there are others). They sennt me some info on upcoming vacations this year. One was an Alaskian cruise in late June. Is that a good time to go to Alaska? Or will the weather be to cold?
Thanks to all of you that have posted to my querry. I know there are Friends of Bill meetings on cruises..... are they well supported? I love to learn more about cruises. My first experience was not the greatest but again it had more to do with lack of support on my behalf. It's different when you travel alone, although some of my best vacations were by myself. I tend to be a loner anyway.
If anyone could relate their experiences traveling as a Single please share them. I would be most appreciative.
Best regards,
Mary
Hi Mary
I went to Alaska at the end of May the weather was very good nice and warm (I got a tan). However, Alaska is not predictable the week before we cruised it rained quite a bit. I think a June cruise is good time to go because you should see whales. We saw lots of whales from the cruise ship. Alaska is very beautiful.

As far as the sober cruises and Friends of Bill W. I will leave those questions for someone with the proper experience to answer. I do wish you well and hope that you can cruise have a great time and stay sober.
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I was in alaska late June this year. All days seemed warm, a few were cloudy and some were blazing sun. It is a fantastic time to cruise Alaska but the weather may vary from day to day.

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