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My wife and I are to celebrate our 10 year anniversary next July. Last week we spent our 9th thinking about finally taking a honeymoon. I was thrilled when I saw lead in pricing that was very affordable, then I read a little more and realized there's much more than the $359 price for a 7 day escape.

What's a realistic budget for a couple sans passport and travel to and fro port?

Any special ways you like to save? I figure a savings account that direct deposits 1/18th (we will probably cruise several months after our anniversary to take advantage of off-season pricing) of the anticipated final cost would be the easiest.

Last question...*If* you knew then what you know now, how would your first cruise be different?

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Welcome to the site, I am crap at budgets so better ask someone sensible!! One thing is you will be expected to pay for it maybe two months/10 weeks before you go. We always pay the balance by Credit Card then pay that off as quick as possible. You will need a credit card for your onboard account, no cash on ship pay at the end.
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Here's a link to an article I wrote about knowing all the cruise costs...

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Hope it might be of some help.

Though I think a credit card is the best for onboard expenses, it is not compulsory. You can deposit cash at boarding to cover your onboard expenses if you like.
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Thanks.

On the subject of credit cards; do any of the lines have branded credit cards? Is there a benefit of using a "Celebrity Visa" or "Carnival MasterCard"? Or is whipping out that plastic with a ship logo a landlubber, greenhorn mistake.
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It is depended on the place you are going to plan for.
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just so you know, you mentions sans passport, you can't do anything without that
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just so you know, you mentions sans passport, you can't do anything without that
I really meant I already accounted for the passport expense; but I am under the impression that closed loop cruises in the Carribean are considered domestic cruises. Please let me know if I am wrong, because I am really on the fence about that one issue considering this might be our only time out of the country.
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The cruise has a lot of hidden costs. You will pay stateroom, dining room tips per person per day times the amount of days for your cruise. Soda, beer, and mixed drinks are extra, plus a 15% gratuity added to the above mentioned drinks. Shore excursions cost extra; Most ports u will have to take a taxi to the port; unless you drive to the port, then u will have to pay for parking for the amount of days of your trip. I have a vacation budget and use that for whatever type vacation I will be taking. Passports are a good thing in todays world. If I had to do my first cruise all over again; I wish I would have found these chat boards prior to sailing. There is so much useful and good info that can be given on these boards.
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(I was driving home from work today and Air Force One flew right over my car landing at Love Field in Dallas - talk about cool!)

I think I have discovered most of the tricks the cruise lines use to boost the S&S bill. It quite the eye opener for a newbie. I'm glad I decided to hit this forum. I've never been sorry using forums. It's wonderful when people are excited to share the lessons they have learned through experience. Thanks folks!
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as far as i know, the cruise ships must hit a foreign port while cruising, not sure of the logistics as to why, you need a passport to go thru customs when you disembark at the end of your cruise
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My opinion of branded cruise credit cards--

I have the Royal Caribbean, Princess, former Carnival Sea Miles and the new Sea Miles cards. Unless you cruise a lot (getting the 2x points) they really are not going to help you much. Other reward cards are better. The BEST BY FAR of the cruise cards is the new Chase Sea Miles. You can use any cruise line and use the rewards on any cruise. It's not associated with any specific cruise line and administered independently. Carnival has a new Mastercard through Barclay Bank (who does the Princess card) that gives points faster, but again there are independent cards that are better.

AF1 used to fly over my ranch on occasion. After all I do have a former president as a neighbor. It used to be fun watching the small aircraft getting too close to restricted air space and being intercepted by fighter aircraft.

Kuki's information is a good guideline on your costs.
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If it is a "closed-loop" cruise you do not need a passport. A closed-loop cruise is one that stops in North America (Canada, Mexico and The Caribbean) and returns to the same port it started.

Most round-trip cruises out of Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Tampa, New Orleans or Galveston are these types of cruises.

With a closed-loop cruise you will need an original or government issued copy of your birth certificate and a government issued picture ID (drivers license).

Having told you the requirement I still advocate that you get a passport. If, for some reason, you need to fly home from the Caribbean you need a passport. The birth certificate and drivers license are only good for sea travel. The passport also allows you to travel wherever you like.

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Snoozeman, I was on the crew for 19 years. I have flown the former Presidents. Been to Texas quite often; Houston, Dallas, Waco, oh yea, and Beeville.
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Well I have a cruise template in excel format. I drop the costs in there.
Things I include:
Tips (Carnival charges $10 per person per day),
Taxes and port fees,
Petsitting cost,
Pre/post cruise hotel costs
Money for drinks including sodas (they charge for soda on board),
Money for shore excurisons,
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Spending money in port

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I try to think of everything that will cost money. I drop it into a spreadsheet and compare different cruises that way. My spreadsheet breaks down the cost per night as well as the total cost of a cruise. A longer cruise maybe more expensive, but the cost per night is lower so the longer cruise is a better value. After I have the full costs I divide that by the amount of months before the cruise to get a cost per month I need to save. So for an April cruise I have (6 months): Sept, Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, and March to save the money for the cruise.
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On the subject of credit cards; do any of the lines have branded credit cards? Is there a benefit of using a "Celebrity Visa" or "Carnival MasterCard"? Or is whipping out that plastic with a ship logo a landlubber, greenhorn mistake.
With the Carnival Credit Card you get double points for using it on a cruise. I'm grandfather in on a better, older rewards program so I don't have this card.
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My opinion of branded cruise credit cards--

I have the Royal Caribbean, Princess, former Carnival Sea Miles and the new Sea Miles cards. Unless you cruise a lot (getting the 2x points) they really are not going to help you much. Other reward cards are better. The BEST BY FAR of the cruise cards is the new Chase Sea Miles. You can use any cruise line and use the rewards on any cruise. It's not associated with any specific cruise line and administered independently. Carnival has a new Mastercard through Barclay Bank (who does the Princess card) that gives points faster, but again there are independent cards that are better.

AF1 used to fly over my ranch on occasion. After all I do have a former president as a neighbor. It used to be fun watching the small aircraft getting too close to restricted air space and being intercepted by fighter aircraft.

Kuki's information is a good guideline on your costs.
I wonder if this Chase Sea Miles card is as good as the one I have now. Somehow I doubt it. Do you know what percentage of net purchases you get?
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One way you can pay for your cruise is to pay monthly....After making an initial deposit for your cruise, break down how much is left owed for the cruise by how ever many months is left b4 the cruise has to be paid for and pay your travel agent or the cruise line monthly. There are no interest charges this way, unlike paying by credit card, and normally automated tips and shore excursions can be added to the total to where you can keep your sail and sign acct very low on your cruise.

example
you owe 1200.00 on the cruise which is 7 days (based on double occupancy)
140.00 gratuities
400.00 shore excursions
total is 1740.00
say you have 12 months b4 the cruise has to be paid for (which a cruise must be paid for approx 90 days b4 the actual sailing date)
make a monthly payment of 145.00 and say set aside 55.00 per month for added expenses on the cruise. for a total of $200.00 per month

Again this is just an example but it might give you some ideas on how to budget.

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Snoozeman, I was on the crew for 19 years. I have flown the former Presidents. Been to Texas quite often; Houston, Dallas, Waco, oh yea, and Beeville.
Cool. Impressive plane. Beeville must have been THE hunting trip?
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I tend to go on the either I got it or I ain't system....if you gotta worry THAT much maybe you shouldn't be going?
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We didn't want to carry all of those documents.. So we got a Passport CARD. It's all on the card. We went to the post office and got ours. It took about a 3 weeks to get it.
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Susan,

It's great you got the passport card. Just remember that the card is only valid for land or sea travel between North American countries.(U.S., Canada, Mexico, Caribbean) It cannot be used for air travel, or any type of travel, to Europe, Asia, Australia or South America.

You are doing an Alaska cruise so you should be fine with the passport card unless you need to fly home from Canada.

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Cool. Impressive plane. Beeville must have been THE hunting trip?
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Well, a lot of great advice here and`its like a spreadsheet as to what would you do differently.

If all you want to do is cruise with minimal expense then you could find some friends to book an `Inside Cabin ` as they pay the standard rate with you and your wife as the 3rd and fourth passenger who pay the reduced rate.
That way it will be like camping when you were teenagers in the same tent. All cozy and warm. Cabin daily tip charge though is still the same.
Then we have these items;
- No hard drinking includes bottled water, juices, colas, beer
- No Specialty restaurants
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- No Ship tours or Shore tours
- No Art purchases
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- No Bingo
- No Non Free courses on the ship
- No Wine tasty
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You get the picture..

I`m quite sure you want a true Honeymoon and to spoil your wife who will of course spoil you in turn. Do some research on costs and place the monies aside for the trip and ensure you have a credit card with a zero balance. Just kidding

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In our case we went from about $800 to $1,600 a trip in shipboard expenses but the majority was auto tips. wine , 2-3 liquors a day , tour a day, 1 - 2 photos, 1 spa and some ship store purchases.

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Well, a lot of great advice here and`its like a spreadsheet as to what would you do differently.

If all you want to do is cruise with minimal expense ...
I appreciate that you took the time to put that post together. We don't want the cheapest cruise, we want lots of value for our dollar. We have never lived extravagantly, but we would like this trip to be a nice time to celebrate a decade together.

With my loose math I figure $2000 for a cost conscious cruise and $3000 for a true let down the hair kind of trip. I will plan for the later but we will probably do the former.
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Cool. Impressive plane (Air Force One) . Beeville must have been THE hunting trip?
For what it is worth you can order from National Geographic their DVD on Air Force One.

On Board Air Force One DVD - National Geographic Store

Quite informative, even for us foreigners, though you could ask AF1 as he might have his own footage of behind the scenes.

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I appreciate that you took the time to put that post together. We don't want the cheapest cruise, we want lots of value for our dollar. We have never lived extravagantly, but we would like this trip to be a nice time to celebrate a decade together.

With my loose math I figure $2000 for a cost conscious cruise and $3000 for a true let down the hair kind of trip. I will plan for the later but we will probably do the former.
Appreciate the reply 7x57, had to add some humour though I'm glad you are going to enjoy yourselves and your math seems right on.

Have a great trip

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For what it is worth you can order from National Geographic their DVD on Air Force One.

On Board Air Force One DVD - National Geographic Store

Quite informative, even for us foreigners, though you could ask AF1 as he might have his own footage of behind the scenes.

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National Geographic made two movies on AF1. One was shot in 2000, the other was shot in 2009. The one made in 2000 is the one that has me in it.
Drats, I have the 2009 one as it has President Obama on it though their are some scenes with President Clinton and President Bush Jr
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We didn't want to carry all of those documents.. So we got a Passport CARD. It's all on the card. We went to the post office and got ours. It took about a 3 weeks to get it.
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