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Did you ever have a confrontation with someone on a cruise, or see one?

Chair hogs, cutting lines, loud and boisterous lout, drunks, wild kids, kids in diapers in the pools, etc?

Probably for 99.99% of us, a confrontation is not what you want, on your vacation. But I have seen a couple. Have you?
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I've never had one nor did I ever see one
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I have only seen these things on Carnival.
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We were traveling with our bro and sis in law on Oceania and my BIL go tin the elevator with a guy. My BIL was wearing a regular button-down tropical shirt from Costco (I am sure many of us have the same shirt - it is the one made with the fabric inside out so it looks a faded gray instead of black).

This guy, a complete stranger he had never seen or met before, says to my BIL: "Nice shirt, too bad you don't have any taste."
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We once did the day cruise to Freeport from Fll, and sadly saw a more serious confrontation. We saw a young woman run past us to go yell at an officer, then, more running more yelling, & tears! Here comes the Captain, more discussion....

Turns out the rumor going about was that he had, shall we say, compromised the girl

Turns out,when we docked, this crew member was escorted right into a waiting Broward County police cruiser.

Another cruise, this crazy lady was yelling at me. because of where I was standing at the rail at sail away....could not really figure out why she was upset.
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And what...is it you only saw on CARNIVAL????
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And what...is it you only saw on CARNIVAL????
1. A teenager knock a tray of food out of another passenger's hands. This led to a huge argument that ended up involving the families of both passengers involved.

2. A fight near a pool between 2 groups of rowdy guys (fat, goatees, baseball caps) - don't know what about.

3. Argument between loud lowlifes and ship security on balcony above ours. Topic - frequent smoking of joints and throwing of various materials (cigarette butts, empty beer bottles) overboard.

4. Argument over possibly intentional bumping on the dance floor.
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i can't say that i have had an actual confrontation with my fellow passengers, but have seen just about everything. I find that for the most part if you are cordigal and polite when point out a certain infraction shall we say that for the most part people with be embarassed and say oh i am sorry i didn't realize that the line didn't start here for example. Its the people who have a bug up their butt that are the ones who will ignore you, walk off all huffy or worst case make a scene. My feelings are hey your are on a cruise, can't you just chill, relax and let it go.
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i never had a confrontation, and I have enjoyed all my cruises. However I have observerd prople smoking joints on Carnival Sensation and Carnival Liberty.
I must say that did not affect my cruise in any way.

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Did you ever have a confrontation with someone on a cruise, or see one?

Chair hogs, cutting lines, loud and boisterous lout, drunks, wild kids, kids in diapers in the pools, etc?

Probably for 99.99% of us, a confrontation is not what you want, on your vacation. But I have seen a couple. Have you?
Trip,

Yes I saw a major confrontation on board a ship while on one of the many Celebrity Mclass ship mechanical problem cruises.

The crew understood we were missing almost half of an Alaskan cruise because of this problem and why the passengers were so disgusted with Celebrity. For the most part the crew was very understanding. The biggest disappointment turned out to be from the decisions of the Celebrity home office and how they chose to treat the passengers. After the fact the passengers learned about the long history of Celebrity sailing these ships and that did not help a bit.

Turned out to be quite a site with almost two thousand disgusted passengers on one ship. The saddest part was that additional disappointments were almost a daily occurrence for the last eleven days of the cruise.

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While on a trip back from Bermuda, I was taken ill and spent the whole day in sick bay. When I was finally released by the Drs, the Nurse put me in a wheel chair and proceeded to return me to our stateroom. Upon arriving at the elevators, the doors opened and she asked that we be allowed to board the elevator. Upon which, the occupants pushed the "close door" button and left us standing there!!! How gauche! When we finally arrived at our stateroom, she gingerly put me in bed and arranged for room service from the dining room, whatever we wanted!! Such clods in the elevator!

PS - Debra: Do you ever let up on the mechanical problems? !
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Actually NO; I don't think many of the tens of thousands who were affected by a company that markets a product that they have claimed in a court of law that "the propulsion system on the Millennium, Infinity and Summit was fraudulently marketed to Celebrity by the manufacturer" and then in turn just passes this defective product on to unsuspecting consumers will ever forget it. This is a cruise information site and I am merely relating a fact of what happened on my cruise and that of more than twenty other such cruises.

While on my cruise there certainly was a major confrontation and my post is certainly on topic for this thread.

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Unbelievable. I would probably have had to answer, "Thank you. Too bad you have no manners."

I have never understood how anyone could feel that they are entitled to make a remark like this to someone they don't even know. They need to learn to chill out.
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I deleted a personal attack in this thread. Please refrain from lashing out. Bottom line - the post I deleted was far more offensive than the post that prompted it.

If you do not like what a person has to say, please just ignore it. Thank you!
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My dh and I went to the ice show, which was marvelous, 45 minutes early. There was a sign out front that said not to save seats. Two teenage girls had been sent ahead to save almost the whole second row of a section. They were turning people away. We went on into the row and sat down over protests from the girls. I politely told them that you could not save seats. A woman in the first row made a rude comment to me which I ignored. Someone else said good for you. The girls left.
While waiting for the show to start we noticed several other places where seats were being saved. A man in another section came and sat down in an area being saved. The man saving the seats, another almost whole row, went over and confronted him. The man refused to leave and the saver grabbed him to try to pull him out of the seat. The audience started booing and yelling. The saver gave up and went back to his seat. He eventually left altogether.
I don't mind if someone saves a place for a companion but otherwise everyone should all meet up before they go into a show if it is so important that they sit together.
Oasis could stop this problem if they had a couple of security people walking around reminding people not to save seats.
And this was RC not Carnival. This is the worst case I've seen and I've been on Carnival several times.
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This kind of behavior can happen anywhere. Ideally, a person sould be able to walk up to a cruise ship staffmember (not a bartender) and tell them "that person is saving an entire row of seats" and the staffer should confront the person.

Now, I assume we all agree itr is acceptable to save a small number of seats, right?
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I have only seen these things on Carnival.
I was involved in ONE confrontation. It involved a clown from New York, who sent his kid into the theater to save a WHOLE ROW of seats for him, and his family, while they all sat in the casino and drank until the show was nearly ready to start. This happened on Royal Caribbean,,,NOT Carnival.

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Many years ago, we sailed from San Juan. Prior to showtime, down both aisles, came running, tons of kids....yelling screaming etc..they proceeded to sit in every front row seat. Right before showtime their parents casually sauntered down those same aisles, to sit in those same seats. The kids the ran back up they aisles! The adults sent them down every night, to save the seats for them, so we all had to put up with this unreal behavior.

There was a language barrier, which made it worse..One night, some of these same kids, actually climbed up on the stage, while the acts were on! I was mortified and the crew said NOTHING, except to try and shoo them off...grrr

I find that the people who save an entire row, think they are doing nothing wrong, get confrontational, and, I can bet, they are the chair hogs, the next morning by the pool.

I feel the crew needs to step in, MUCH more than they do....I honestly, would get uncomfortable, if I had to save more than 2 seats...jmho
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I deleted a personal attack in this thread. Please refrain from lashing out. Bottom line - the post I deleted was far more offensive than the post that prompted it.

If you do not like what a person has to say, please just ignore it. Thank you!
Thanks Paul,

I think the openness here on cruisemates, for sharing information, is what is what puts cruisemates far ahead of the other cruise boards.

I agree totally with what you said that "if you don't like what a person has to say then just ignore it". It does seem so simple!

Thanks again Paul, for your great work in keeping cruisemates the best!

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In about 3 dozen cruises or so, I've actually had 2 what you could call
" confrontations." Both were on the Carnival Glory. Once, several years ago this couple sailed with us and about 10 a.m or so we all 4 went out onto deck three, which is the promenade deck, although on the Glory it doesn't go all the way around. The crew had cleaned the deck and stacked the loungers.
WE chose an area way toward the back, unstacked 4 chairs and discovered they were wet. My friend and I went back to our cabins, got towels and came back and dried off the chairs and we all sat out on the deck for 2-3 hours. We then left for the buffet, went by the cabins, dropped the towels and went to the buffet for lunch. After lunch my friend and I decided to go back and sit on the deck while our wives played some bingo.We went back to the same chairs and this young couple were using 2 of the same chairs we had been using, which was fine--they weren't our chairs so no big deal. We grabbed the two that wasn't being used and moved them about 20 feet further down the deck and sat down. This young guy gave us a very dirty look when we came and got the chairs but didn't say anything. My friend and I did what most middle aged people do after a big lunch and sitting watching the ocean--we nodded off to sleep. After about an hour our wives came out, sat down on part of the chairs with us and we were just talking in a normal , reasonable voice--no one had been drinking, no loud noise, or anything. This young guy kept giving us dirty looks and finally he said " we were here first and we came all the way down here so we would not be disturbed . My wife is sick and you all are disturbing her." That really irked me. I told him that actually he wasn't there first, that we had gotten the chairs down, dried them off and had been using them prior to going to lunch. He smarted off again about us disturbing his wife, she was sick and we were bothering her,etc. I told him if she was sick to take her to the infirmary that we weren't leaving, it was a public deck area, we had as much right as they did to sit there and we were staying,so get used to it.. He wanted to force the issue . My friend was a retired police officer and finally he had had enough and asked this young guy how well he could swim--that if he smarted off again he just might throw his A#$ over board. The young couple got up and left and as they got way down the deck, they turned and gave us the finger. We just waved and said bye. We saw them a few times after that but they never said anything. I couldn't believe that anyone could be so self centered that they thought no one else should sit close to them.

The second confrontation was at the Lobby bar a couple years ago when my wife's sister and her husband took their first cruise with us. If it had not been for that , I think I would have hit this guy with everything I had but I knew if I did I would be put off the ship and I didn't want to leave them on their first cruise and besides, we had all ridden to Port Canaveral in one vehicle.
The 4 of us stopped at the lobby bar for a glass of wine prior to dinner. Apparently the waitress in the area was new, as she was very, very slow. The lady bartender was working as fast as she could, as most people were finally going to the bar to get their drinks, rather than wait on the slow waitress. This was Carnivals fault as they should have had more help but it wasn't any big deal. Finally it cleared up at the bar and my brother-in-law
and I went over to order 4 glasses of wine.The bartender had poured 2 of the 4 when this older guy came up, sat down on a stool next to where I was standing and started immediately telling the bartender what he wanted. She was working as fast as she could and he kept on and finally in a loud voice said something to her. I finally had enough and told him she was taking care of us and he should wait his turn. He went ballistic and said don't dare talk to him, don't tell him what to do, etc. We had some heated words that could have turned ugly. He had on an open collar shirt with a couple top buttons undone, a large gold chain and clothes that looked like he was right out of the disco era.I was standing with my right arm on the bar and he was sitting on a stool on my right.
I seriously, seriously started to hit him right in the face with my rt. elbow and knock him off the stool halfway across the dance floor but didn't. He was a total jerk but I made him wait his turn. I saw him the next morning in the buffet and he was sitting by himself eating as fast as he could cram it down--I just smiled at him and spoke and kept moving. He never said a word. That's the closest I've come to hitting someone without hitting them in many, many years.
Other than that, I can't recall any confrontations or near confrontations with anyone.
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On my first cruise (on RCCL with cruisemates) I went down to see the Hawaii dancers and sat down in a seat. I was alone as my husband had decided to go somewhere else. This lady came up to me and told me in a loud rude voice that she was saving the row for all her friends and I was NOT one of them so I had to move. I was scared and didn't know about the not saving seats so moved to another seat. However that seat was saved for one person with the other 2 people already there. She had just gone to the bathroom. I ended up standing at the top trying to see as much as I could. Now I would just look at her and keep sitting as I told her that there was no saving of seats. That cruise was 16 yrs ago and it is still one of the biggest things I remember about that cruise. I felt humiliated and scared.
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Tigercat, I have always said, with each cruise we learn what to do, or, not do, on the next one.....with a cruise history, comes an education...
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I have never been on a cruise, but our first one is coming up in February 2011. I am afraid of a confrontation regarding my son, who is 20 and has a disability. However, he looks like he is 10 years old because of his size. I am afraid that when we go to use the adults only pool area that someone will question why we are there. Will I have to carry his passport around to prove his age to other people, including the staff?
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When you board, I would go to the pursers office to have a discussion about your concerns. I would hope that they will eleviate any concern you have,and if a complaint is lodged, it would be handled respectfully.

I can't imagine anyone would have the chutzpah to question you directly,and "IF" they decide to see the purser, they will get a brief explanation, and, the complainant will be on their way.

I would not carry your son's passport around onboard... I don't see the need for you to have to dignify anyones questions, by showing it to them. I hope you all enjoy every mnute onboard.
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Thank you for your sugestion. I will put it on my "to-do" list of things for when we get on board.
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Trip you are right. I learn something new every cruise. I didn't let it ruin my cruise but it did dampen it and I was always worried about being by myself. Now I don't.
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Well, I am about to go on my first cruise, so I have not encountered anything like this seat saving in the theater on a ship, but I have experienced it at social gatherings like High School graduations and things of that nature. Personaly, I think it is "OK" to save a "REASONABLE" number of seats. but in that statement lies the problem. SOMEONE must define "reasonable", and most of us would answer that differently. If there is a family of 5 going to see a show, I believe that they should be able to save the seats for all of them. I am assuming a mother, a father, and kids. the mix could be different, but im OK with reasonable seat saving. However, if there are people trying to save entire rows for 2 or 3 families, or groups of friends on the same cruise...that becomes unreasonable (in my opinion). For the money that we all pay for these cruises, we should be able to expect to sit with our families or our friends we are traveling with. But the cruise staff should set policy, and they should proactivly be responsible for enforcing whatever policy that they set in place. I am hoping that the pre-reserving tickets for show times on Allure and Oasis helps with this problem, but I doubt that it will. I cant wait to see what it is going to be like. I hope this isnt a major issue on my cruise.
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