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I was jst thinking - berlin is a very historic city, and almost ALL baltic ships stop in Warnemunde for trips there. However, many people don't go (it requires a few hours by train each way) and is costly.

But how is the airlift to Berlin? I would think it is pretty good. Then you need coaches to transfer people to Warnemunde. (Or they can easily, optionally take the train).

How about more cruises startiung in Berlin with three days in a hotel.

I can tell you I once started a Viking River cruise in Prague and it was spectacular.

What areas would you like to see more of - that the cruise lines could help you see?

How about Switzerland before you leave for Genoa (a short hop by air or train).

I am talking about ports NOT on the regular cruise schedule that need to be included.

Moscow? Milan? Paris?
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Anyone can, and many do, start a European cruise in a landlocked location such as Paris, Vienna, Prague, or a multitude of other choices. Many times it is easier to do this to take advantage of frequent flyer tickets. Although I have done a European River cruise with pre in Paris, I don't see why an ocean cruise line would "start" a cruise at a land locked city.

Still, there are plenty of ports I would like to see on more itineraries.

I would like to sail up the Thames to London. I would like to do Northwest passage stopping in Resolute and maybe even a full passage to Bering Straights. I have not stopped in Tunisia, Libya, or Algeria on a cruise. I would like to stop in every country on west coast of Africa on a cruise.

I want to see more islands in the South Pacific. I also want to stop at Pitcairn and Easter Island.

What I really want is longer visits in ports; especially where there is great nightlife ashore. Two or even three days in some ports (e.g., Venice) would be fantastic.
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What I really want is longer visits in ports; especially where there is great nightlife ashore. Two or even three days in some ports (e.g., Venice) would be fantastic.
I agree with this!

What are the reasons for not staying overnight anyway? Port charges? Space available at the pier?

On Renaissance in Tahiti, we got 2 days on each island but the ship sailed around all night and came back in the morning.
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I agree with this!

What are the reasons for not staying overnight anyway? Port charges? Space available at the pier?

On Renaissance in Tahiti, we got 2 days on each island but the ship sailed around all night and came back in the morning.
Shops and casino closed in most ports; thus the desire to sail around all night.
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since the vast number of cruisers are in general going to be cruising the Caribbean i would love to see different ports open up, there are just so many untapped beautiful islands to choose from
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Monet's garden at Giverney; Carcasonne; Sienna; Assisi et al - I think some of these would have to be incorporated in a landtour before joining a cruise a la Alaska cruisetours.

I have a very, very long list but won't bore everyone with it.

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Monet's garden at Giverney; Carcasonne; Sienna; Assisi et al - I think some of these would have to be incorporated in a landtour before joining a cruise a la Alaska cruisetours.

I have a very, very long list but won't bore everyone with it.

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My wife went to Giverny last May when gardens were at a peak. She loved it; brought lots of seeds to be planted in our garden. Giverny is definitely an easy day trip from Paris or Normandy.

I would love to go to Sienna to see the race. That is high on my bucket list just like seeing Monaco Grand Prix.
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I saw Giverny on a Seine River cruise. It is spectacular.. So is Auvers-sur-Oise where Van Gogh died, which is in the same general area. You can see the places he painted, and they have copies of the same paintings there so you can see exactly what he was looking at and what he painted as a result.

But I think both are closer to Paris than Normandy.

I think Burgundy (France) is a beautiful town, but very few ships go there. We stayed there overnight on Oceania once a long time ago.

I think more ships will start to do more overnights - it was certainly on the list for Azamara for "things we know cruisers want).

But I also think most cruise lines believe people would rather see more ports per cruise than have longer stays (obviously, they are wrong).

Venice definitely deserves two or three days, but what other ports do?

Rome - yes (you should get a hotel there), Alexandria, Egypt.

Kusadasi - there is far more to see there than just Ephesus, but you really need a guide to take you to all the great places. I just saw on the history channel that there is a cave with paintings of the original saints dated from 100 a.d. not far from Ephesus. That is extremely rare (there are very few depictions of Jesus in paintings that are more than 1000 years old, hence not really accurate).

I don't think you need more than a day in Monte Carlo, although the night life might be interesting to see (or not, I don't know).
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Burgundy is a town??

Beaune is beautiful, we spent 3 days there last year.

Agree on Giverny, that whole area is just lovely. We visited in late June and the garden was in all it's splendour.

I'd like to see areas like Prague, the Black Forest, Austria focused on.
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Monaco/Monte Carlo def doable in a day; you can probably do St Paul de Vence as well.

Passengers could disembark at say Santa Margherita (Ligure)/Portofino and walk the Cinque Terre

Now how would you do Milan?

To do Florence justice, you need an overnight there.

I bow to superior knowledge - overnight at Petra and Mt Nebo def a must - probably on a Red Sea cruise.

Cairo def requires an overnight to do the Museum justice and that is not including the Pyramids.

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I don't think you can do Jordan in a day or even two day port visit to Aqaba. You can see Petra or Wadi Rum but not both. If you want to see Mt Nevo or Madaba or Jarash you need even more time. I really recommend a four or five day land trip (could be a pre or post cruise) to see Jordan.
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The cruise we took to the Holy Land and Egypt on Royal Princess had a very good solution -- stops at two nearby ports, with the possibility of overnight stays. With two stops in Israel, an overnight in Jerusalem works well. And with two ports in Egypt, the overnight to Cairo is very popular.

Cairo is about the same distance from Port Said/Alexandria as Paris is from Cherbourg. Surely there is another French port there that the ship could hit next day, and make it possible for an overnight trip to Paris. You could do the same in Italy for Rome. The same is true for many other places mentioned.

To be honest, we are peripatetic tourists. An eight hour port call suffices for us to see the big bang attractions almost everyplace. With the exceptions noted above, I can't think of that many places I would find a second day to be that exciting.
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Marc,

I agree - my tour to Jordan (7 days) was primarily to see Petra but it was eclipsed by Mt Nebo - jmho; we concluded the tour at a Movenpick hotel on the Dead Sea. Now that was pampering!

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