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View Poll Results: What would be your choice for best option for Formal night dress codes?
I'd like to see the total demise of formal dress 4 20.00%
I'd like to see at least a couple formal nights, with dress codes enforced 12 60.00%
I'd like to see formal nights dress totally optional 2 10.00%
I think all dress codes end, and leave what to wear entirely to individual passengers 0 0%
I wear what I want to, and don't care what anyone else wears 2 10.00%
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Old January 27th, 2011, 01:28 PM
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Following up on a different thread about "Changing Formal Nights", I'd be curious to run this poll to see what options would be most popular.
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what i think is a good solution would be on a 7 day cruise have one formal night, make it by reservation only, dress code enforced, white glove service, chef's special menu
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My preference would be to see Formal Nights gone but the evening dress code of Smart Casual/Elegant Casual whatever you want to call it enforced and a little more stringent on what's appropriate. There should still be "Dressing for dinner" not show up in your shorts.
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That would get my vote.
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The trouble with most of the options is that other than ban formals or keep formals, the others mean much the same which is ''wear what you want''.
It's ok to say ''wear what you want'' & I was tempted to vote that way but I thought if that was the system then I fear an awful lot would just wear tee shirts & shorts, so then what would be the point of an MDR with waiter service? May as well just go self service. People who want to ''have dinner'' tend to want to dress nicely, those who just want ''something to eat'' don't bother.
If dress codes are to be enforced then the code must be of a recognised pattern, ie "formal", if you say "smart casual" but then leave the judgement of whether it's smart or not to the Maitre'd it becomes a personal thing. Personally I don't really care, BUT knowing human nature if there are no rules people will end up sitting in the MDR in swimming trunks!

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Regent has basically gone to just elegant casual with sports coat the norm; that is my preference. As long as they enforce the "elegant" portion of dress code I am fine. Last cruise I didn't even take a sports coat and felt under dressed (plus I couldn't get into one of the restaurants).
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I'd like the airlines to give me a break on paying for luggage - can't cruise with my steamer trunk.
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" leave what to wear entirely to individual passengers"

Stated above, is a portion of one of the options listed, is basically what happens anyway to my mind. If things were to change, they would have to be enforced,or this statement would be proven true, again.

I like resort casual, with one formal night...A dress code is tricky, because, what one cruiser considers, lets say resort casual, another may look askance, and think it, is she/he kidding?? Like food, it's all subjetive.
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On our last cruise, P&O Azura, the smart part of "smart casual'' was misunderstood by some. Surely people know that when staying in a 4/5* hotel one should dress accordingly, it's just respect for others & one's surroundings.
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I voted "I'd like to see at least a couple formal nights, with dress codes enforced "
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I'm with Phil and Liz.
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I'd like the airlines to give me a break on paying for luggage - can't cruise with my steamer trunk.
Most airlines let you take two fifty pound bags; 70 pound bags on many international flights. Airlines, aren't the excuse for not taking the proper clothes. If you are paying $1000 for air, what is an extra $100 for baggage.
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Most airlines let you take two fifty pound bags; 70 pound bags on many international flights. Airlines, aren't the excuse for not taking the proper clothes. If you are paying $1000 for air, what is an extra $100 for baggage.
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I think you are quoting business class allowances? I don't think everybody travels business class.

JTD on his 28 day Azura cruise was restricted to 1 piece of luggage 23kg.

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If you are paying $1000 for air, what is an extra $100 for baggage.
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I agree packing is a challenge. Well, not for me, for Liz !
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I feel we should be allowed to wear anything we desire other than shorts or jeans .

If I had my choice I would wear slacks and a knit shirt or a button down shirt .
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The trouble with most of the options is that other than ban formals or keep formals, the others mean much the same which is ''wear what you want''.
It's ok to say ''wear what you want'' & I was tempted to vote that way but I thought if that was the system then I fear an awful lot would just wear tee shirts & shorts, so then what would be the point of an MDR with waiter service? May as well just go self service. People who want to ''have dinner'' tend to want to dress nicely, those who just want ''something to eat'' don't bother.
If dress codes are to be enforced then the code must be of a recognised pattern, ie "formal", if you say "smart casual" but then leave the judgement of whether it's smart or not to the Maitre'd it becomes a personal thing. Personally I don't really care, BUT knowing human nature if there are no rules people will end up sitting in the MDR in swimming trunks!
I agree, dress codes if they are to be enforced whatever they may end up being need to be for the lack of a better term spelled-out, clearly, this is acceptable,this is not and you will be turned away at the door and directed to another dining venue
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I agree, dress codes if they are to be enforced whatever they may end up being need to be for the lack of a better term spelled-out, clearly, this is acceptable,this is not and you will be turned away at the door and directed to another dining venue
Lisa - you are 100% right. This is the root of the problem.

I would wager that if you asked a random sample of 10 CMs for their definition of formal, you would end up with at least 5 different definitions.
Some posters think formal only applies to the dinner; some think it applies to the whole evening.

I often felt I was not dressed formally but by reading some of these posts/guidelines I do dress formally.

Formal to me = gowns/DJs etc which I hate but apparently that is not the case.

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I feel we should be allowed to wear anything we desire other than shorts or jeans
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By putting the limit of no shorts and jeans, aren't you just asking people to dress how you want, as opposed to allowing them to wear that they want? (BTW, most of the mass market lines now state they allow jeans on nights designated casual).

There lies part of the problem with no dress restrictions; people have different thoughts on what the mininumum of acceptable is. And as the minimum standard is set by the cruise line, there'll be people who wonder why they stopped there.
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Then let the cruise line set the standard . Thats fine with me.
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I am going to try and inject some humour into this:

I blame Poirot for all this - he always was dressed in a tux for his TA crossings and river cruises. Is all this formal dressing a hankering for nostalgia?

Seriously though, we live in a different age.



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I am going to try and inject some humour into this:

I blame Poirot for all this - he always was dressed in a tux for his TA crossings and river cruises. Is all this formal dressing a hankering for nostalgia?

Seriously though, we live in a different age.



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Completely agree with you. I fully understand some people wanting to hold onto the days of formal but it's just not part of society any longer. If you want to wear your tux, go to a ball. They have no place in the Caribbean or really on any other vacation anymore.
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If every one just sticks to what the cruise line asks then there is no problem really. All lines are different, some say smart casual is shorts or jeans, Cunard for instance require a jacket & trousers, P&O allow "dark denim'' (whatever that is). For me Formal for men is suit & tie or Tux, semi formal (a P&O thing) suit or jacket & trousers without tie, smart casual is shirt & trousers.

Definitions...shirt = proper collared shirt like you would wear a tie with.
Trousers= tailored trousers or you may call dress trousers
Jacket = the ''top half of a suit'' or tasteful blazer /sports jacket
(you say coat, we call an overcoat a coat)
Dinner Jacket= Tuxedo, an US term, same garment but the
term originated in "The Tuxedo club''
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You really think you needed to explain to us what a shirt, jacket and trousers are? You follow the rules, we get it.
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If every one just sticks to what the cruise line asks then there is no problem really. All lines are different, some say smart casual is shorts or jeans, Cunard for instance require a jacket & trousers, P&O allow "dark denim'' (whatever that is). For me Formal for men is suit & tie or Tux, semi formal (a P&O thing) suit or jacket & trousers without tie, smart casual is shirt & trousers.

Definitions...shirt = proper collared shirt like you would wear a tie with.
Trousers= tailored trousers or you may call dress trousers
Jacket = the ''top half of a suit'' or tasteful blazer /sports jacket
(you say coat, we call an overcoat a coat)
Dinner Jacket= Tuxedo, an US term, same garment but the
term originated in "The Tuxedo club''
So the ladies can wear what we like?

I'll go with that as long as I don't have to be seated next to a man in a DJ.

Pray - what is the difference between a formal and semi-formal suit? The designer label?

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Semi formal (which I think is ridiculous), is a suit without a tie or just jacket & trousers.
Ladies do seem to able to wear what they like yes.
Since you mention designer labels, we went to one of those welcome aboard parties where you have three words with a white uniform, my chap said ''what a nice suit sir...Armani?'' ...I said.. ''no, help the aged Winchester!"
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