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Old May 22nd, 2011, 10:49 AM
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For all of our very veteran Cruisemates who began their cruising, when ships were liners, vs cruise ships....what have you seen as the greatest changes, and, what do you miss about the Grande Dames, that the newer ships, just don't have?

Time to walk down memory lane.
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For all of our very veteran Cruisemates who began their cruising, when ships were liners, vs cruise ships....what have you seen as the greatest changes, and, what do you miss about the Grande Dames, that the newer ships, just don't have?

Time to walk down memory lane.
The old liners:
-had no balcony cabins, so you never had to worry about your neighbors smoking on theirs.
-had no aircon, so you never had to worry about it being too cold.
-had no saunas, but the ship interiors were so hot you didn't need one.
-only had hot water for a few hours every day, helping to regulate your daily schedule.
-had shared toilets and showers down the hall, leaving more free space in your cabin.
-had no telephones, so nobody could bother you.
-had no refrigerators in cabins, leaving you more space.
-had no internet, so there was no expensive bad news to read about.
-had no television, so there were no re-runs to waste your time.
-had formal night every night, so there was never any discussion about dress codes.
-burned coal. The flaming cinders falling down from the stack kept everyone indoors, preventing skin cancer.
-had no swimming pools, so there was never a problem with sunchair hogs.
-had no self-service laundries, leaving you more time to enjoy the cruise.
-required you to rent deck chairs, so nobody could take yours.
-had tiny portholes instead of windows, so the morning sun would not wake you up.
-had very few alternative restaurants, so very few complaints about being forced to pay for meals.
-had no bingo, no spinning clases, no computer classes, no wine tastings, no mixology classes, no duty free shops, no coffee bars, no art auctions, no internet cafes, no shopping ambassadors, no future cruise sales, no shore excursions, no childrens programs, no cooking classes, and no ship's tours, so there were no complaints about nickel and diming.

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The old liners:
-had no balcony cabins, so you never had to worry about your neighbors smoking on theirs.
-had no aircon, so you never had to worry about it being too cold.
-had no saunas, but the ship interiors were so hot you didn't need one.
-only had hot water for a few hours every day, helping to regulate your daily schedule.
-had shared toilets and showers down the hall, leaving more free space in your cabin.
-had no telephones, so nobody could bother you.
-had no refrigerators in cabins, leaving you more space.
-had no internet, so there was no expensive bad news to read about.
-had no television, so there were no re-runs to waste your time.
-had formal night every night, so there was never any discussion about dress codes.
-burned coal. The flaming cinders falling down from the stack kept everyone indoors, preventing skin cancer.
-had no swimming pools, so there was never a problem with sunchair hogs.
-had no self-service laundries, leaving you more time to enjoy the cruise.
-required you to rent deck chairs, so nobody could take yours.
-had tiny portholes instead of windows, so the morning sun would not wake you up.
-had very few alternative restaurants, so very few complaints about being forced to pay for meals.
-had no bingo, no spinning clases, no computer classes, no wine tastings, no mixology classes, no duty free shops, no coffee bars, no art auctions, no internet cafes, no shopping ambassadors, no future cruise sales, no shore excursions, no childrens programs, no cooking classes, and no ship's tours, so there were no complaints about nickel and diming.
excellent post Bruce

I remember last year when I was at "Seatrade" one of the cruise execs (can't remember which /maybe Frank DelRio) talked about the "old days of cruising", when there were only portholes, and the only planned daytime activity onboard was shuffleboard.
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My father arrived in the US on the United States oceanliner in 1913 . Among the amenities was being able to sit on the surface of the ship .

My first cruise was on a Cunard ship 38 years ago .There were no balconies ,only 2 shipboard activities ,no shore excursions ,no TV's in the cabins ,no classes ,only one dinner time ,no shows .The evening entertainment was a movie .
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