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I happen to have a chance to take one short cruise RT Amsterdam that ends on the 22nd on March, and start another in Venice beginning on the 25th.

Anyone have any suggestions on booking air or rail between the two cities, plus hotels.

I am thinking I can get a sleeper car on the Amsterdam/Munich train, and then go Munich to Venice by regular rail.

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Try this website:

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Thank you Annie, I actually did look at that web site already. I ended up researching trains between cities, etc. I figured out I could do with 1) hotel, 2) sleeper car and 3) hotel....

You live "over there" - what would you do? I found the flights to be expensive and requiring outrageous transfer points - like Barcelona (?). A train ended up seeming easier.
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First, let me say that traveling by rail in Europe is a great way to get around. We've spent probably 5 weeks traveling by train to various parts of Europe over the last few years. They are always on time, very clean, comfortable, and quiet.

We did one overnight in a sleeper berth from Munich to Florence. It was fine, but it's not always the case. Our son and his wife took our experience and decided to try the same thing from Munich to Rome - bad mistake. They took pictures of their berth and it was rather disgusting. After exchanging letters with Rail Europe, we got them a full refund because of the problems. Our berth was comfortable and adequate. We spent the extra money so we had a bathroom, which was a good choice. There were no dining facilities onboard, so we had the forethought to bring food and beverages with us. The beds were comfortable and clean. The good thing is, it did save us a night's lodging and we did not waste a day traveling. But there's nothing to do, so your limited to staying in your small berth. And while I slept okay, my wife did not because the train makes several stops during the night, so the stops and starts always woke her up, along with the noise of the train. Because of our overall experience, we chose not to do the overnight berth again, choosing instead to travel during the day where we enjoyed the scenery, being able to get up and move around, the food, and the people. Plus, the fast trains during the day are more comfortable than the overnight trains.

Another suggestion; make sure you purchase your train tickets before you go. We sell Rail Europe passes and always recommend them as the only way to go. Costs are alot less, they're always first class tickets, plus you have Rail Europe to assist you should any problems arise. Their website is easy to use and when they send your tickets, they also provide a wonderful book with all the schedules.

We once decided on purchasing a train ticket while we were in Europe for a trip we hadn't planned. The cost was considerably higher than if we had bought it ahead of time through Rail Europe.

While train travel in Europe is overall much nicer than in the U.S., the sleeper berths on the U.S. trains are much nicer.

But we've been on the Munich to Amsterdam train as well as the Venice to Munich train. The one between Munich and Amsterdam is a high speed train that is very nice. The one between Venice and Munich is also nice, but because it goes through the Alps, it's not as nice as the high speed train and definitely not as fast.

When we were going from Venice to Amsterdam, we decided instead of taking the night train, we would just spend the night in Munich and finish the trip the next day. This turned out to be a good choice as we found a really nice hotel about 3 blocks from the Munich train station and then found an awesome brau haus (beer house) where we enjoyed some great beer, very good food, wonderful company, and great local music. We both agreed it was much better doing it that way than to take the overnight train.

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Thank you Annie, I actually did look at that web site already. I ended up researching trains between cities, etc. I figured out I could do with 1) hotel, 2) sleeper car and 3) hotel....

You live "over there" - what would you do? I found the flights to be expensive and requiring outrageous transfer points - like Barcelona (?). A train ended up seeming easier.
You can purchase a ow direct flight Ams-Venice (Treviso) for about 120 USD and then get a connecting bus to Venice. The only issue is that it is an early departure from Schipol. Airline is Transavia.

If you have seen enough of Venice, I would base myself in Vicenza which is 1hr from Venice by train.

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Hi Paul

I meant to add I would first of all decide which city I would like to visit. In my own case it might not be either Ams or Ven.

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Raileurope is an expensive option. Always try and use the actual supplier rather than a 3rd party. Raileurope puts on at least a 25% surcharge if not more and then charges you for the delivery of the tickets on top of that.

The reason your train tickets were so expensive buying local is that you bought last minute. Experienced travellers will confirm that the best deal on train tickets are bought when they open, 3 months in advance. The closer you get to your date the more expensive they are.

Amsterdam to Venice, I'd fly Easy Jet from Amsterdam to Milan and then the train to Venice. Book your train ticket on Trenitalia and save a bundle.
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Flying will be so much easier and cheaper than flying. I would take a train to Brussels and spend a few days touring that wonderful city. Then, I would take an easy flight to Venice.
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