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Old January 14th, 2014, 12:42 AM
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Carnival Cruise Lines will return to Norfolk in 2015 | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

They're pulling out of Baltimore in November 2014 and going to Norfolk instead. I think this probably has alot to do with having to burn clean fuel when going up the Chesapeake into Baltimore, but of course nothing is said about that. Carnival made it known that if they were not given an exception to the law, they were going to pull out of Baltimore.

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Carnival made it known that if they were not given an exception to the law, they were going to pull out of Baltimore.

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That does not seem like the right thing to do.


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Keep in mind that as with most cruise lines, it's always about the buck, especially with Carnival.

The thing is they threatened Maryland saying if the State did not grant them an exemption (keep in mind that granting this would legally allow them to pollute the air when everyone was could not), they would pull out of Baltimore and this would cost alot of jobs. While the governor was in favor of it, luckily the State legislature voted against it. So Carnival had two choices; follow through with the threat or do the right thing. And yes, doing the right thing would have meant raising the rates to cover the increase cost in the cleaner fuel, but instead they decided to take their marbles and go home while continuing to pollute the air in other geographical areas. Other cruise lines have decided to make the switch to cleaner fuel stating they recognize they have a responsibility to the environment.

The unique thing about Baltimore is that the port is so far from the ocean. In fact, it takes 8 hours to transit the Chesapeake Bay each way because of the speed limits imposed on the inland waterway.

By the way, this is the same cruise line that signed an agreement with Norfolk to keep a ship there for several years if the port spent $34.5 million to completely renovate the entire area and build a brand new state-of-the-art cruise terminal. Then about 2 years later, they pulled out leaving Norfolk holding the bag. Needless to say, the politicians who made the decision to spend the money on this were chastised for wasting such a huge amount on something that was not being utilized. So I would not be surprised to find out that Norfolk ended up making Carnival a deal they couldn't resist.

And contrary to what alot of people think, they did not pull out because of the clean fuel situation. They cited a lack of sales, which is no surprise when they were actually only sailing out of there a couple of times a year.

Hopefully, this return to Norfolk will be a good thing and everyone will benefit from it.

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