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Old January 12th, 2003, 01:11 PM
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This question concerns published ratios for both space and crew. This is an extension of the discussion concerning a recent Celebrity cruise.

Millie class are rated at 1950 pax. This is at two per cabin. However, many cabins do hold a third and fourth pax. Ship was reported to have 2400 pax on board. This is a significant change to the two ratios especially if you consider children to be more "crew intensive" than adults.

Rennaisance R4 was rated at 688 pax and they did not carry children. Tahitian Princess does allow children but is still rated at the same 688 pax. Does anyone know max 3/4th pax that can be carried? Any reports from the first two cruises?

Voyager class is 3114 pax. How many do they usually have when sold out given the number of children that are on this ship?

My recent trip on Seven Seas Mariner was sold out. Although it has a max of 700 pax, we only had 642 pax as there were many solo pax. This raised the actual space ratio to 77.9 and lowered the crew ratio to 1.44.

Have these ratios, fuzzy measures at best, become even harder to interpret?


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Marc, you're making my head hurt! <>

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Old January 14th, 2003, 07:11 PM
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ok, the real question in that mess above is:

Although Tahitian Princess is listed as 684 pax, what are the max pax (berths) on her??

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Marc... space ratio's are ALWAYS calculated based upon double cabin occupancy, period.

Like so many other things in the Cruise Industry, this is a tradition that goes back to the 19th Century in an Industry based upon very conservative measurements. It harks back to the time when the Steamship lines' major source of income was Steerage passengers... and counting any but the first two in a cabin would have totally distorted the "real" space ratio, as pertaining two on board ambiance for first and second class traffic... which is what space ratio is all about. As an artificial comparative figure (which is all the space ratio is), it is only useful as a tool comparing one ship to another... nothing more and nothing less.

When you are on a ship with a 70 or so space ratio, you'll know it (as you already do). Everything else falls into place behind the space ratio.

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