I was just wondering I have seen a lot of posts from all the Staff here. All of you sound very knowledgable in the field.
I was wondering a few questions...
1) Does Cruisemates pay you to write articles, monitior and write replies in the message boards?
2) Does Cruisemates pay for you to take trips . (For instance you Mr Kuki, it seems you are always going palces). So just wondering if you are doing trial runs to report back to us on
3) Also when Cruisemates runs group cruises, I have read that cruisemates does not make any money off these cruises. But that you do hold reception parties, I was just wondering who picks up that tab.
Believe me, in no way is this post meant to be negative. Just wondering. And boy if you are getting paid to do any of this stuff... I wish I could join you... But I am by no means an english major, or a writer like you guys are.
Personnel matters are not discussed just as they are not discussed at any other corporations. I can tell you that Cruisemates does not make money on the Cruisemates cruises and the TA's or cruiselines pay for the parties for the most part. There are times when a CM staffer on the cruise will pick up the tab for a get together during a pre-cruise as I have done in the past.
Think the first hint would be that it's pretty obvious that CruiseMates is a "Commercial Web Site". <G>
Would you walk into a library, or bookstore, searching for information, and ask everyone how much they're paid? <G>
The "staff" usually clearly identify themselves as staff members in their signatures. The vast majority of posters are simply people like yourself who enjoying taking cruising, and sharing cruise info.
And OF NOTE... the staff are allowed to expressed their own opinions, and on occassion you'll find we disagree with each other. There is NO "company line" to tow.
"Would you walk into a library, or bookstore, searching for information, and ask everyone how much they're paid? <G>"
Kuki, in all fairness to Felway, he/she did not ask you *how much* you were paid, just *if* you were paid. I was taught never to ask questions that could be deemed too personal in nature so I'm always glad when there is someone else in the crowd bold enough to do it for me:-) If Felway had asked how much, I would have winced. He/She only asked "if" and I have to admit, it made me curious. Of course, I'm also the same person who loves the yearly Parade Magazine issue that that lists different kinds of jobs and the annual salary for each job -- simple human curiousity, that's all.
You have such a way with words.....I will say I'm happy to be part of Cruisemates and enjoy the work I do here in my spare time, its just a supject I think we all enjoy talking about and sharing our expierences with others.
The Cruisemates group cruises are also a lot of fun and something I look forward to, but yes, we also pay to go, nothing in this world is free, the get togethers onboard and the cocktail parties are also a plus. I actually have a regular job that pays for my cruising :-)
Suffice to say that neither I nor any other member of the Cruisemates staff count on what we receive from Cruisemates to pay our bills each month. We are here because we love cruising and passing whatever information we can find along to others and want to make sure that this forum is available to others. IN addition there was more to the question than just if we received any pay. Questions were asked about how the Cruisemates Inc worked and corperations just do not give out that information. I am sure that it would be highly improper to ask you how much people get paid, what they get paid for, what your benefits if any are, etc. etc. Just something that is best left unanswered and should not be asked unless you are offered a position.
It was my understanding that Kuki is paid by the Western Canada Society for the Promotion of Moose Cruising.
Robo Cop is paid by the Carolina Society for the Rebuilding of Broken Law Enforcement Officers.
Tweety is paid by the Long Island Society for the Preservation of the Long Island Accent.
(an offshoot of the Society for the Consumption of Long Island Ice Tea).
Art is paid by The Society to Promote the Consumption of Oatmeal in the Galapagos.
All other staff members are paid by the North American Society of Kite Flying cruisers.
I get a very healthy check each month. But they deduct for wrong trivia answers which is a required test to be employed. I'M in the hole for $300,000.
On a serious note, we do this on a voluntary basis because we love cruising and all the fine people we meet here on CruiseMates. And it is such fun when cruising to put faces with names. My wife and I have met the finest cruisers here at CruiseMates.
Fly to London, Sept 2, 2004
Constellation Sept 7, 2004
Post Edited (08-26-04 02:44)
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Sorry Felway, maybe I came back a little strong. In defense I have been accused of getting my cruises for free and being a shill for cruiselines, getting kickbacks etc and none of that is true and I'm a bit touchy over it now. I only wish I did get free cruises and paid to travel! You would not see me on this keyboard talking about it, I'd be doing it.
"I am sure that it would be highly improper to ask you how much people get paid, what they get paid for, what your benefits if any are, etc. etc. Just something that is best left unanswered and should not be asked unless you are offered a position."
Jim, I wholeheartedly agree with you on the above. I am, however, looking for a certain T-shirt. It says "My job went to India and all I got was this lousy T-shirt". If you see one in your travels, let me know.
By "tightly aligned" I meant selling advertising that appears on the message threads. As you pointed out, Cruisemates is commercial, in that way. I have found only one significant cruise-specific message board that isn't tightly aligned, or out-right operated, by a travel agency or some other commercial travel-related enterprise.
"Suffice to say that neither I nor any other member of the Cruisemates staff count on what we receive from Cruisemates to pay our bills each month."
Jim... Well said. :-)
I am one of the principles in CruiseMates, Inc. along with Anne Campbell.
I also wish I could pay our staff to go on cruises and come back and talk about them. I wish I could pay MYSELF to do that, but I don't.
Bicker wrote "I have only found one significant cruise-related message boards web site that isn't tightly aligned, or out-right operated, by a travel agency or some other commercial travel-related enterprise."
And for the record, I disagree with him, but purely on a semantics basis. We are a commercial entity, NOT tightly aligned, or out-right operated, by a travel agency or some other commercial travel-related enterprise."
We are our OWN commercial travel-related entity, we are not run by any OTHER enterprise. We run ourselves and are supported by the advertising we sell.
Mike: I'm with you. The friendships I've made through this site are priceless!
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It is easy to mis-read peoples intentions in a message board. I don't think anyone here meant to get defensive.
Unless you mean my response to Bicker.
That has to do with frequent criticism we get about our ability to be impartial even though we run a for-profit web site.
That is a tough call, because the board I believe Bicker was referring to is an un-moderated board (no staff at all) and as far as I am concerned it is a zoo. Very hard to get any decent information there at all without also encountering some very rude people who are just there to antagonize and insult others.
I thought you were referring to RTC. That place is truly a zoo. I guess you might mean cruise2.com? (I am missing the subtlety of your hint). That board used to be very active, but has slowed down a lot.