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Old April 20th, 2005, 01:18 PM
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Since Sept. 11, the cruise industry has bragged about their anti-terrorism security measures. These measures include passenger screening, baggage screening, security on and around ships at sea and in port.

I've yet to read what security measures they are taking to screen crew members, many being from countries with known terrorist training camps. Does anyone have any info on this?

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Old April 28th, 2005, 03:07 PM
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That is a good question. I wonder why noone has responded?
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Old April 28th, 2005, 03:49 PM
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I'd love to have an answer to that as well. We got off the Grandeur in New Orleans and nobody checked our passports or hand-carried luggage. We went straight to a cab and out into the streets of New Orleans without anyone even asking who we were. Scary.
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Old April 28th, 2005, 04:28 PM
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Were you not screened when you got on your ship? Your ID was checked, your bags were screened , customs and immigration ran your name against a terrorist watch list (whether you realized it or not). Every time you reboarded the ship you were screened again and your id was photogrphically reestablished. If you didn't carry anything onto the ship, and the only people on the ship were screened getting on, then why would you need to be screened getting off? So what's scary?
As far as the crew they are screened by the cruiseline personnel departments and by the customs and immigration watch lists. To get off the ship in the US they must go through Immigration (you don't really as a US citezen. Crew are screened getting on and off the ship just like you and me. So, if they do get off in the US they have entered legally and are carrying nothing of danger ashore. Again, what's scary?
On board ship you have an entire ships crew and a security group.
In US ports cruise ships are escorted in and out of port by coastguard. Security perimeters are maintained around docked ships by coastguard. In most Caribbean ports security is provided by local coast guard or equivilent , in Mexico it is Mexican Army troops. In Panama there is actually a seperate police branch to protect tourists.
Port access in the US requires showing ID . ETC ETC .
I do not think cruise ships are a weal security link at all.
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Old April 28th, 2005, 06:47 PM
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They know who is on the ships and yes they do a background check on the crew such as it is but they also do submit the names etc to the Homeland Security for checking. The crew does go through immigration every time they get off the ship in the USA and when they get back on. They have the ships ID card which is checked. I do not understand you walking off the ship in NO as in our two dozen plus cruises we have always gone through security/customs/immigration/homeland security or whatever you want to call it. Was your last port of call Key West or St Thomas or PR by any chance? No matter as a terrorist is not going to all that trouble to get in the USA when they can just run across the border day or night from Canada or Mexico.
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Old April 28th, 2005, 08:25 PM
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From what I understand, besides the things Jim said, there are other security measures in place that passengers are not told about, for obvious reasons.

We've only been on three cruises, but we had to go through customs each time (the first time in the cruise terminal, second and third times on the ship) before we left the terminal or disembarked. I've also seen the crew go through similar checks in ports.

I'm pretty sure that Homeland Security doesn't let ANYTHING get by them on a cruise ship.

BTW, have you seen those cute little beagles working as you disembark?

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Old April 28th, 2005, 08:42 PM
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Actually I just came off the Carnival Legend in FLL on the 12th and immigration was set up to check passports or bc's of everyone that was getting off ship. There were separate lines for American citizen's and for non US citizen's. That was the 1st time I had encountered that in Fort Lauderdale.

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