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Old August 31st, 2009, 07:25 PM
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Is the swine virus going to be a big problem on ships? Just wondering, we are going to costa maya in March on celebrity mercury and were just a little worried about it , have there been outbreakes on any ships? what if anything are the lines doing? and what other than washing our hands alot can we do?
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Is the swine virus going to be a big problem on ships? Just wondering, we are going to costa maya in March on celebrity mercury and were just a little worried about it , have there been outbreakes on any ships? what if anything are the lines doing? and what other than washing our hands alot can we do?
Don't get caught up in the hype and hysteria of this H1N1.

If you see or hear of someone that was "quarantined" in their cabin, they have not been diagnosed with the H1N1. Until they have proper testing to determine otherwise, they have the flu. Thats it.

It is important to know that the test for H1N1 cannot be done "in the field".
Emergency rooms/hospitals can only do "quick check" tests for Influenza A and B, much less what a ships infirmary can do, which is nothing but take your temp and give you meds.

One can only be diagnosed confirmed with H1N1 after a swab of the mucous membranes and or a sputum collection has been sent off to a lab with high level testing, such as a city health department lab or CDC.

If someone is sick with symptoms of the the "flu", any flu, they should not be in a large gathering. They should wear a mask as well.

The best thing anyone can do is frequent hand washing, covering their mouth when they cough or sneeze, and use good general hygene.

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To be accurate there have been a few cruises affected by H1N1, but the biggest problem was the ports who heard there were some people on the ship who had it and they over-reacted.

At this point, however, the craziness has died down and no ships are being adversely affected by H1N1. The truth is that the virus is probably lss dangerous than we thought anyway. Plus, it is least dangerous in the avergae cruiser demographic (older adults).

I certainly would not worry about it. Go forward woth your plans to cruise.

Also - when you get the questionaire at the beginnig of the cruise where they ask you if you have felt any symptoms of flu recently (have you had 1. diarreah, 2. coughing, etc) - be aware that if you say yes they MIGHT not let you on the ship. I am not telling you to lie, I am telling you to be very sure you have been dangerously sick before you admit it on that form.

I got a letter from a guy who said he casually owned up to having had a little cough, and they wouldn't let him on the ship! he said, "wait a minute, it wasn't that... really!" but they wouldn't let him take back what he said.
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To be accurate there have been a few cruises affected by H1N1, but the biggest problem was the ports who heard there were some people on the ship who had it and they over-reacted.
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Ok, so how did the ship test and confirm the H1N1 virus specificly?

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I don't know, all I recall is news reports of a ship with reports of crewmembers with flu. I seem to recall they said some of the crewmembers had h1n1 but you are right that they did have a hard time verifying it was h1n1 (I am thinking of the RCL ship that wasn't allowed to dock in Aruba and other places).

But my point was not so much about whether or not the ship actually had THAT specific ship virus. My answer was more along the lines of how H1N1 is affecting cruising - whether it is actually on the ship itself or not was not the point. The perception that it was on the ship was enough to affect the cruise. But it ended up being an overreaction anyway - that was my point.
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Yes I agree with you Paul.

There has been presumption that any flu symptom is H1N1 and therefor we must "panic" and take drastic actions.

The presumtion that this was H1N1 by the shoreside authorities cost those pax their port calls unnecessarily.

This knee jerk reaction by the public in general is costly in many ways. ER's and clinics all over will be swamped with "swine flu" cases and folks will be medicated for something they do not have.
Look at the drug resistant bugs we have now.

It cannot be assumed that any flu like symptoms are H1N1.

Better education of the public on the ways to test for and prevent illnesses is vital with such possible pandemics such as we may experience soon.

Just as that arrticle I sent you, Paul, by the medical director of CCL, was useful in educating folks on what is Norwalk and what is just a stomach bug and how to protect against them.

"The ship" did not give you a disease. People on the ship did.
The ship cannot be blamed for poor personal hygiene by its passengers.

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The story of H1S1 >>>>
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Swine influenza virus is common throughout pig populations worldwide. Transmission of the virus from pigs to humans is not common and does not always lead to human influenza, often resulting only in the production of antibodies in the blood. If transmission does cause human influenza, it is called zoonotic swine flu. People with regular exposure to pigs are at increased risk of swine flu infection. The meat of an infected animal poses no risk of infection when properly cooked.

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Hello friends,
As per my best of knowledge the some detail I collect is as under..

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Influenza A virus strains are assigned an H number and an N number based on which forms of these two proteins the strain contains. There are 16 H and 9 N subtypes known in birds, but only H 1, 2 and 3, and N 1 and 2 are commonly found in humans.

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I think that your post is a tad confusing, even though technically accurate. What the media and all are referring to as swine flu is different from the one you are talking about that is common in swine. This one is a hybrid and is contagious human to human. It is also such a new (they are calling it "Novel") variation that we humans have no immunity to it. The severity seems to be lower than originally feared, but it is still out there and still spreading. Technically, we are now in a Stage 6 pandemic. Although the word "pandemic" only defines the number and spread of cases and has nothing to do with severity of illness.
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I just read an article this morning saying that the CDC is trying to get the media to stop associating the H1N1 virus with the Swine Flu.

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I just read an article this morning saying that the CDC is trying to get the media to stop associating the H1N1 virus with the Swine Flu.

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Yes. It has been trying to get the term swine out of the media hype for awhile now.

I suspect they will have as much success as we are getting the media to not say a passenger "fell" overboard.

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