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Old December 28th, 2002, 09:11 AM
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I hear that the odds are a little better ont the ships because they dont wanna cause people too loose all their vacation money, I dont believe this though. But I may be wrong. Can some fill me in a little do they pay out or is it tight ? Or Just like any other casino.
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Old December 28th, 2002, 10:00 AM
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Jenny,

The last thing on the minds of cruise lines is whether or not you lose all your vacation money. . . the VERY last thing. As a matter of fact, probably one of the stated intents in their business plan is to GET ALL YOUR VACATION MONEY. Its nothing personal. . .that's business. You and only you have the responsibility of NOT losing ALL YOUR VACATION MONEY !

When you gamble in Vegas you have the Nevada Gaming Commission looking out for you as well as the casinos. Its ironic, but if most state lotteries went to Vegas with the normal odds they pay out, the Nevada Gaming Commission would kick their butts out of the state in one hot second ! Foreign-flagged cruise ships have no gambling commission and are in international waters where they are subject to the laws of the country of their flag, usually Liberia or Panama.

I gamble very little on a cruise ship. My favorite vice is craps. I've noticed they don't allow you to triple your bet after the come out (ala Vegas) or pay straight odds on the back bar (ala Vegas). Craps when played properly has the lowest % for the house, so I can understand they would do that. I don't mind. I just don't shoot craps on a cruise ship.

There used to be other variations on 21 also, but I understand now most of the lines have cleared that up. Now they get around someone pointing out that variation by having very few 21 tables and many caribbean poker tables, a game that not very many landlubbers understand.

I love Carnival and their cruise rates. If they can get gamblers to subsidize my cruise costs more power to them.

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Old December 28th, 2002, 01:06 PM
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The casinos on ships tend to (more or less) folow Vegas strip rules for the table games. That said, what drives the rules in Las Vegas (and most juristictions with gambling) is competition. Slots on cruise ships are notoriously tight, although I have never seen any figures to verify this. For example, while strip casino slot machines generally payout at 97%, while Nevada grocery store and airport slot machines payouts ca be as low as 80%. I think cruise slot machines payout around 90 to 95%, which is common in most non-Nevada gambling places.

That said, cruise lines don't look at the casinos as their big money makers. They tend to look at the bars as their main revenue source. You will always find a bar or lounge rignt next to the main dining rooms, and the Conquest has 21 bars just waiting for you to plop down your sail-and-sign card for a pre-dinner cocktail.
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Old December 29th, 2002, 08:17 AM
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Jenny, I have always heard the opposite. Slots on cruise ships are very tight. I have been told not to gamble on cruises, you can do much better on a non-floating casino.
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Old December 29th, 2002, 04:27 PM
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Yep -- I think the odds are better in a land-based casino. No hard facts to back this up, just personal experience. I'm a sucker for the video poker (too chicken to play the "real" game!) and I was only up once the last time -- mostly broke even, but then lost the $20/day I budgeted. I'm going to spend more time in the arcade this time -- not cheap, but you get five - ten minutes of entertainment for a buck or two instead of losing $50 in an hour.

My suggestion for the casino is this: If you like to gamble, or want to give it a try, go for it -- you're on vacation so what the hell. Just plan a budget, like $20/day max in the casino -- and stick to it! That way, you'll have some fun, but won't be crushed when you lose it. That's always worked for us.

Do what you want and have fun! :>) - Amanda
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Old December 30th, 2002, 12:29 AM
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I disagree. We were on the Paradise and many of us won on the slots! We were real surprised how loose they were in comparison to Vegas or Tunica. Even the Caribbean Stud table was pretty kind, (as long as Eva wasn't dealing!!!)

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Old December 30th, 2002, 10:14 PM
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Observation........people who win (don't lose all the money) think slots are loose..................Losers think they are tight <G>. Nature of the beast.

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Old January 3rd, 2003, 09:18 AM
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i dont know if this is possible but it seemed that all the slots were set to pay off the first two days to draw more people into the casino, more than half of our group last cruise won $300 or more on the first two day and then won nothing the rest of the trip, have fun with the blackjack and slot tourney's they are your best odds.
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Old January 3rd, 2003, 11:01 AM
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On my last 2 cruises I won big on the slots the first night out. Too bad I didn't quit when I was ahead, as I could have paid for the cruise and then some.
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Old January 11th, 2003, 07:22 AM
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As a gambler I agee with Rick. If a slot hits for you then you swear they are loose. If you blow a thousand in one then you swear they are tight. I m a table player myself and have found BJ to be BJ no matter what casino I play it in.
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