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pal February 18th, 2003 05:21 PM

Notarized parnetal permission letter for underage child?
 
We are going to take my daughter's friend (also 17) on our cruise with us, and I was told that we needed to have a notarized letter of permission from his parents.

Has anyone else done this letter, and if so, what information must be included in the letter. Thanks!

Sheila February 18th, 2003 07:12 PM

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I am going to have to do the same thing, taking my son, but his father and I are divorced and I have been told we have to have a notarized statement from the absent parent for him to be allowed to disembark in mexico. You can get one from a Notary or justice of the peace just stating that the parents are giving you permission to take the child out of the country. The childs parents must be present also to sign the paper.

Lisa February 18th, 2003 07:44 PM

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The letter should also give you permission to authorize medical treatment in case of illness or injury.


Gary February 19th, 2003 03:43 AM

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This might seem a little bit ridiculous to the natural parent of the child, like in Sheila's case, but it prevents child abductions. I can't picture a parent so mean that they would deny their children one of their parents, but it happens and this is how Mexico deals with it.

As another poster stated, permission to give medical aid can save a lot of problems if an emergency should present itself.

Gary

nushnakka February 19th, 2003 06:15 PM

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I have gone thru this many times with my son. The letter needs to come from the parent who is not taking the child. For example I have custody and my current husband and I took our son on a cruise. My ex had to provide me with the letter. I did not have to be present to sign only my ex. Now this also applied when I took our daughter to MX, it was just her and I and my husband had to also provide a notorized letter that it was ok for her to travel with me.


ncarolina111 February 20th, 2003 12:16 PM

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We went on the Imagination in Jan. 2003 and my daughter took a friend with her : age 13. We did this a couple of years ago and took 2 extra friends for my sons and they were 17 years old. The parents of the children wrote a letter like this:

(parents name) give permission for our daughter, (childs name), to travel out of the country with (our names) on the following dates: Jan 1, 2003 through Jan 7, 2003 (they put in 2 extra days just in case). In the event she needs medical treatment we give (our names) the permission to them to seek treatment in her behalf.


Both parents signed this letter and had it notarized.

Carnival never asked to see this letter but I had it in case they did. I had heard before we went on the cruise that carnival would ask for the letter but they never did and I wanted to make sure I had her birth certificate and letter to make sure there was no problem. When we ordered our plane tickets since her last name was different from ours hers(the friend) had to get a paper ticket and my family had electronic tickets. That was the only thing we had to do different by taking a friend.

nushnakka February 20th, 2003 01:55 PM

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NC, I am surprised they did not ask for the letter as they did with my son and again I only needed the parent who was not there to sign the letter as the other parent, me, was physically there. Add to that the fact that my ex lived 600 miles away I could not and did not need to be there when he did the letter and had it notorized.

ncarolina111 February 20th, 2003 03:50 PM

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I do not know if I needed both of her parents to sign the letter but they are married and figured why not let both parents sign this. Rather do it in NC than wait to we were getting ready to board and they ask why only one parent signed. I understand why you didn't have to sign letter because you were going to be there on the ship but neither one of her parents were going and I figured why not. I was surprised too that they did not ask for this letter but they didn't and I had it ready for them just in case. I am ready to go back cruising some friends are going on the NORWAY in may 2003 and we are thinking about it. A much older ship but cruising is fun (this one is for us adults only). Trying to decide..........

Sheila February 20th, 2003 06:46 PM

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Ok, I called Carnival and explain to them that my son was traveling with me and my husband and that his real father was incarcerated and there wasn't anyway I could get a notarized letter from him. The rep said that didn't matter, all I need was his birth certificate and picture Id. No letter would be asked for. I sure hope he is right.

nushnakka February 20th, 2003 06:50 PM

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NC go for it! We just came from a cruise my husband and myself and then my sister and her husband. We had a blast! I'm ready to go back but I'm going for a "land cruise" for memorial week to Cancun. It's my husband's b-day and I'm going to surprise him and arrange his time off with his boss and the whole family is going to fly there. I can't wait. It's been 14 years since I've been there. We love the vacations for just us but also have to do at least one with the kids. I hope you decide to go on the Norway or any other cruise. BTW, I'm from Charlotte, where are you from?


Gary February 20th, 2003 07:01 PM

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ncarolina,

I have never been on the NORWAY, but close friends have.
You'll love this ship, even though she is old. She's one of the last GRAND OLE LADIES of the cruising tradition.

Enjoy!

Gary

Kareen February 20th, 2003 10:10 PM

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If one was flying into Mexico, one would need the notarized statement from the absent parent(s). I had a statement for my son in 2001 cruise on Fascination- Key West and Mexico: no documentation was asked for. Karen

Gary February 21st, 2003 01:38 PM

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To have the documentation and NOT be asked for it, is good.

To be asked for it and NOT have it and be denied boarding, is bad.

Angela February 25th, 2003 09:00 AM

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The following is a complete sample that you can use for your situation and adapt it however appropriate.


AFFIDAVIT AND POWER OF ATTORNEY (SHORT FORM)


I/we, (name of absent parent), the natural parent/legal guardian of (name of minor child), do hereby permit, allow and otherwise consent to the travel of (child's name), a minor child, on the (name of cruise line and ship) during the period (dates of travel) to be accompanied and escorted by (your name.) Further, I also affirm that (your name) has full power of attorney regarding said minor child in all matters, including but not limited to, medical, legal and all other manner of responsibility and that my full and express permission for all of the same and foregoing is hereby granted.

Further, your Affiants sayeth naught.

(signatures of person(s))



State/Commonwealth of __________
County/Parish of __________


Subscribed and sworn to before me, (name of the notary) this ____ day of _______200___ by (name of parent(s) giving consent.)
Signature of Notary
Seal of Notary


I hope this helps.
If in doubt, consult your family attorney.

Angela February 25th, 2003 09:05 AM

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To Sheila who said that her ex was incarcerated: You can bypass the ex.
You can obtain such permission from the court of jurisdiction to allow travel. Call your family attorney who handled your custody case. A document allowing travel, issued by the court is even better than what is described as a "notarized" letter. Such a document, once applied for, would be issued by the Judge and is pretty much "good" indefinitely. Look into this because your particular situation is not one where you want to dredge all that up every time you want to go somewhere...call your lawyer. He/she should do this for you as a courtesy because it's a small matter and it can be taken care of rather quickly....you might have to pay a small filing fee for the document to be filed into the court record.

Kaylynn723 February 26th, 2003 08:37 AM

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Hi, I am a paralegal in Michigan and I have a Power of attorney for taking another child on vacation if you need one? I can email it to you if you would like?

jaypea February 27th, 2003 11:28 PM

Notarized parnetal permission letter for underage child?
 
It's not Carnival or any other cruise line that requires this letter. It's going through customs/immigration at any foreign country or exiting your home country that requires this, in addition to the child's birth certificate or passport. They don't always request this, but you have to be prepared just in case.

And it can't be just a letter of permission signed by the absent parent, but must be notarized ... signed and witness by a licensed Notary Public, in most cases a lawyer.

rollerdonna April 13th, 2010 08:00 AM

I've done this several times, both taking a friend of my kids' and taking my own kids out of the country when I had custody, but needed permission from their father.
I never actually had anything notarized, but I did have letters signed by either the friend's parents and/or my ex. and those letters were inspected both at the airport security and upon boarding the ship. Never had any problems with either one.

donna

tami.briner@gmail.com April 13th, 2010 11:21 AM

I just got back from the Inspiration while traveling with my 13 year old. At no time was I asked for the paperwork allowing me to travel alone with her. With that being said - I carried it with me at all times, even on shore excursions. In fact I had 2 copies - one in the stateroom safe. The mess of being in a foreign country and not having that piece of paper was not worth it for me. I have Quicken and a "free" program that came with it is Willmaker. That also has other forms and one of them is a travel form. I may have been lucky in that my daughter looks 15 - 16 years old and can speak for herself had she been asked by the customs agents if her dad knew she was traveling. Whereas a small child could not do that as easily.

averrette April 13th, 2010 04:06 PM

I have taken my daughter on several cruises. She was 12 on one and 15 on the other. My husband and I are divorced so her name is different than mine. Nobody questioned a thing. Even the flights were just like normal. I never even thought about it since I never had any issues. We are going in June, but she will be 18 then.

wakedreams April 14th, 2010 02:07 PM

My mom has taken my kids on cruises before,
I always get her a notarized letter just in case. She hasn't had to use it but, you never know. I have heard stories of people being turned away during embarkation because they didn't have the letter available.

It only takes a few minutes to stop at a bank and get one notarized.
So better safe than sorry.

SWeir April 15th, 2010 10:10 AM

You can also get a sample letter for this purpose at Sea U Onboard Carnival Parental Authorization Forms. There are two versions - one if the minor is traveling with one absent parent, and another is they are traveling with two absent parents. We are taking a friend of my son's who is 17 AND her parents are divorced so I'm going to have each of her biological parents do a letter. I sure don't want to have to leave her on the ship when we want to get off in Mexico!

Fern April 15th, 2010 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SWeir (Post 1286364)
You can also get a sample letter for this purpose at Sea U Onboard Carnival Parental Authorization Forms. There are two versions - one if the minor is traveling with one absent parent, and another is they are traveling with two absent parents. We are taking a friend of my son's who is 17 AND her parents are divorced so I'm going to have each of her biological parents do a letter. I sure don't want to have to leave her on the ship when we want to get off in Mexico!

I'm glad to see that you've figured out what you need!

Just an FYI to anyone else-if you don't have the proper documents the minor won't be able to board the ship. It's not a problem of leaving them on the ship in a port, they must be "legal" to get off the ship in every port before boarding.

Smarce1 March 19th, 2014 02:02 PM

Any issues
 
I will be getting a notarized form from both a a child's parents who is 17 and we are flying internationally. I will also have a copy of her birth certificate. Even with all of your documents have you still ever gotten problems? I just just dont want to hinder our trip in anyway

storybookcruises.com March 19th, 2014 04:23 PM

You will need a notarized letter not only giving you permission to take their child out of the country (always good to put the exact countries or even an itinerary in the letter), but it should also give you permission to authorize any emergency medical treatment if necessary.

And if you're flying internationally, you don't need a birth certificate - you need a passport. You need a birth certificate to get a passport, so if you have a passport, the birth certificate is redundant and not needed.

Pete

Matelot March 19th, 2014 07:05 PM

I always used this form- Permission Letter for Minor Children to Travel from Cruise Diva's Cruise Planner.
I was only once asked to produce the form, on HAL, every other cruise line
asked me at check-in if I had it, and when I started to show it to them they said "That's OK, I just need to know you have it".. the form has to be notarized.


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