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Old March 12th, 2004, 03:46 PM
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I am looking for a cruise to take next February to get away from the cold of the northeast. I cruised on the Fascination 2 years ago and was not happy at all with the entertainment or the service.
We never met our cabin steward which I think is important to me to know who is taking care of my room.
The wait staff never was around to keep my water glass full which is a pet peeve of mine.
The food was also not as good as I expected and there was only one grand midnight buffet on a 4 night cruise.

I guess is what I would like to know from you Carnival cruisers is this....

Did I just hit the ship at a bad time?
Should I go for a newer bigger ship?
OR
Is this the normal for Carnival for the price which is more affordable than lets say Celebrity.

Any suggestions on ship or itineray would be very appreciated.

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Old March 12th, 2004, 03:54 PM
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Dont let one bad apple spoil the whole bunch!!!

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On the short 3 and 4 day cruises you normally will not recieve the best cruising has to offer. They are geared to the quick younger set that has very little time or funding to afford the longer cruises and it is reflected in both the passengers and because of that, the crew as well.
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Cruise lines always use their older ships to do short cruises. And these ships usually do two cruises a week. I always advise first-time cruisers to try a 3 or 4 night cruise, just to see if they will enjoy the experience without paying a goombah load of $$. You won't see the newer and better-equipped ships doing short cruises. Celebrity doesn't do short cruises. NCL used to, but not any more. Carnival and Royal Caribbean do - but they use 15+year-old ships. People who do the longer cruises are looking for more modernity, amenities, glitz, and comfort. And they will pay more money for it. It's difficult for a cabin steward to "get to know you" when they do two cruises a week, 52 weeks a year. I'd sure think about booking a longer cruise on a newer ship, but you won't get a price like you got on the 4-night Fascination. None of the short cruises have more than one midnight buffet on short cruises, as it's non-profitable. Actually, few of the newer 7-night ships have the midnight buffet every night. Years ago, that was the norm, but years ago, it cost more than it would today for cruising. At least Carnival still offers lobster on their short cruises. Royal Caribbean doesn't. You'll see a big difference on the 7-night Celebrity cruise to Bermuda. You'll see a different clientele, too. Hope you've checked out Bermudan prices onshore! You'll go only to two ports and stay for a couple of days at each. Also, May is the very beginning of the Bermuda season, and the beach water might be a bit chilly. Bermuda is in the Atlantic, on the same parallel as No/So Carolina, so you won't get the warmer Caribbean water. You'll have a very different experience on Celebrity. The Horizon is also an older ship - I was on it back in the early 90's for a Southern Caribbean cruise, and loved it. Cruise pricing is very seasonal. May and September for Bermuda and Alaska are "shoulder" seasons - meaning the very beginning or end of the season. Have fun!
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Old March 12th, 2004, 07:54 PM
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I was just on the Fascination for New Years...I loved every second of it. Our room steward was awesome, he remembered our names and went out of his way to give us good service. Our waiters were also amazing...

i think you just hit the ship at a bad time
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Old March 12th, 2004, 08:37 PM
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Definatley give Carnival another chance. If the second trip is bad again, I suggest you call Carnival. But maybe since it was 2 years ago the service will improve. I also think that maybe it was just the ship. Try maybe the Legend, Miracle or Valor. If you want a newer ship.

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We have always cruised with Carnival. We've gone on olders ones and newer ones. I'd never go back to an older one once you go on one of their newer ones. We went on the Pride and loved it!!! The ship was beautiful, good food and the entertainment was fantastic!! We just went on Disney, and we both said that we liked Carnival soooooo much better.
Definately give them another chance. I think you get a lot for your money with them.
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Old March 13th, 2004, 12:37 AM
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We've been on Carnival for several 4 and 7 day cruises. Our longest - a 10 day cruise - was on Royal Caribbean. What we've found is that the shorter the cruise the less likely you are to have the opportunity of becoming aquainted with your room steward or the wait staff.

There was one cruise where we didn't meet our room steward and didn't get very good service because he was getting off at the next port. The new room steward did a wonderful job. Another cruise...our room steward got sick right in the middle of the cruise and someone else filled in for her until she was better. I've noticed that some of the new employees have trouble remembering water because they are trying to remember everything else they are to do.

Having said all that....my suggestion is to take a 7 day cruise. You would still only have one gala buffet....but there is a late night buffet everynight - just not the "big" one.
Sometimes the food varies from ship to ship.

We were told that RCI was superior in every way to Carnival and found that we didn't agree. Both have their good and bad points. We actually liked Carnival's food better.
Carnival has some other things we look for - greater variety of music, the opportunity to stay busy if we so choose, and the opportunity to grab a snack at the late night buffet.

You have to decide what you are really wanting from a cruise and go for the cruiseline that best meets your needs and desires. Good Luck!
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Old March 13th, 2004, 06:52 AM
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heck yes! We went on the MS IMAGINATION last sept. IT was awesome 5 nights out of miami going to grand cayman and Jamaica. It is sooo beautiful there. Jamaica is lots of fun too! go again ..pick a longer cruise. we are cruising the MS TRIUMPH out of miami in april headin to st thomas. CANT WAIT!!!
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Old March 16th, 2004, 07:03 PM
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We just got back from a 5 day cruise on Carnival Celebration. We won't go on another cruise. Lots of people on this message forum have suggested that we give it another try, and have suggested that our ship was smaller than some or our ship was older than some, but theses were not details that were supplied to us when we booked the cruise! So we thought it was too expensive to try it again when the first time was not all we expected (or heard!) it would be. The dining room food was good and our waiter was excellent, but the grill area had crummy food and the hot food wasn't necessarily hot and the cold food wasn't necessarily cold. That bothered us. The trip itself was VERY rough, which Carnival couldn't do anything about of course, but it still made for an unpleasant trip. We thought the escursions were way too expensive and many times on the ship, the lounges would be closed, and once we were actually left in one bar without any of the ship's employee's in there at all for over an hour! Overall, It simply was not what we wanted it to be!
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Old March 16th, 2004, 07:04 PM
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We just got back from a 5 day cruise on Carnival Celebration. We won't go on another cruise. Lots of people on this message forum have suggested that we give it another try, and have suggested that our ship was smaller than some or our ship was older than some, but theses were not details that were supplied to us when we booked the cruise! So we thought it was too expensive to try it again when the first time was not all we expected (or heard!) it would be. The dining room food was good and our waiter was excellent, but the grill area had crummy food and the hot food wasn't necessarily hot and the cold food wasn't necessarily cold. That bothered us. The trip itself was VERY rough, which Carnival couldn't do anything about of course, but it still made for an unpleasant trip. We thought the escursions were way too expensive and many times on the ship, the lounges would be closed, and once we were actually left in one bar without any of the ship's employee's in there at all for over an hour! Overall, It simply was not what we wanted it to be!
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To some people cruising is not an attractive vacation because of various reasons. It wouldn't matter what ship or cruiseline it's just that the overall experience is not to their liking.

To us Carnival has always delivered a value vacation. The food is excellent, the shows are fun, the ships are appointed well, the staff are friendly, and the amenities are comfortable. Do things go wrong? Of course, but they have always done what was necessary to please us.

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We have done 2 cruises, first on the Grand Princess, then on the Carnival spirit. The Spirit was nice, but we had been spoiled by the Princess. We would consider Carnival again if the price was right. We had problems with our wiaters, slow service. Our food was never hot, just warm by the time we got it. We were always the last ones out of the dining room. Other waiters were a lot better. Other than that, the Spirit was good. JUst the Grand Princess was better.
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We just returned Sunday from our cruise on the Carnival Pride (Long Beach/Mexican Rivera). Every aspect of our trip was great. We were blessed with great weather, it was aprox. eighty five degrees and sunny with no humidity in every port. Of course Carnival can't take credit for this, but overall everything else on board was so much to our liking that we would not hesitate to sail on the Pride/Carnival again. Our room steward was great as well as our waiter and asst. waiter in the dining room. This was our second cruise, taking a 3 day Ensenada trip on the Carnival Ecstasy in July to make sure that cruising was to our liking, and we were hooked! I would recommend Carnival to anyone, and will most likely sail with them on our next cruise. We really loved the Spirit Class Ship, and would love to sail on the new Carnival Miracle or the Spirit.
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I've never had a major problem with a cruise. I really tend to stay with the week or longer cruises because you get the better ships, best staff, and most time naturally.

Many people like to know their cabin steward, others like it if they never need to see them, which means they take care to be out of the way. I don't mind as long as my cabin is ready, but if I want to meet them they're only a quick phone call away.
With waiters its really luck........there are a few who are rather lazyand don't take their job seriously, but if you have a problem bring it up with the Maitre'd at the earliest opportunity. Sometimes when we went to breakfast inthe Elation dining room (we are Destiny dining room folk) we found a lower standard of service than would normally be acceptable. (don't take this wrong, i'm of latin descent as well) In general our servers at these breakfasts were from Latin America and would congregate in certain areas not paying much attention to the people. In contrast, every cruise i've taken I get a GREAT waiter. We love our team headwaiter Adan, we'll have him for the 4th consecutive cruise at the same table in 2 weeks. He's very dedicated and works to bring us the highest level of service possible. Most waiters I have seen are very satisfactory.

As has been said before, the older ships work shorter itineraries, or medium length cruises that are intended for itinerary oriented passengers. You may want to try a recently refurbished or newer ship. The newer CCL ships include:
the Spirit class (Spirit Pride Legend Miracle)
the Conquest class (Conquest Glory Valor[2004] Liberty [2005])
moderately new ones: Victory, Triumph, Destiny.

Do NOT let a single experience dissuade you from using a cruise line if it wasn't all that bad. Try cruising with CCL again on a longer cruise and a newer ship. I've always had great food. Try and enjoy yourself, and you'll be great. I find CCL to be an extremely good value for the money, and I'm a veteran of 2 NCL and 4 RCCL cruises as well. By the end of the year i'll have 5 consecutive CCL cruises. I hope that gives you an idea of how my experience has been.

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I just returned from a four night cruise on Carnival Imagination. We had a good time, but were spoiled by a seven day cruise on Princess Dawn. There were huge differences. On Carnival, we never saw our steward and he never folded our clothes. The bed was turned down at night with chocolates on the pillow and the room was cleaned in the morning so I know he existed. On Princess, our steward greeted us every time we came and went with a warm smile, hello, how are you. Whenever we left the room, if we left anything out, it was neatly folded when we came back. I had never expected that , but it was a nice touch.

There seemed to be a midnight buffet of some sort every night on Imagination. But we were never able to stay awake for it, so it did not really matter to us. We found shows and other activities more to our liking on Princess. We are not late night people and many activities and shows on Imagination did not even start before 10:30 p.m., whereas on Princess we had to decide which shows we wanted to see each night, and I remember there was plenty to choose from at 8:30. There also seemed to be more activities, etc. that we were interested in during the day.

Food in the main dining room on Imagination ranged from absolutely fabulous to okay. Food in the Horizon Grill was not good at all. We were never disappointed with the food on Princess. Actually, we were never disappointed with anything on Princess.

I know many people love Carnival and find Princess boring. I guess it depends on what you are looking for. Carnival has a more exciting casino, and I guess more happening past midnight. There seemed to be a lot more drinking on Carnival than on Princess, but this could have just been the particular cruises we were on.

On our cruise, Princess did have one midnight buffet. But as I said, if you want lots of activities past midnight, Carnival could be the ship for you.

Hope this helped. Our two cruise experiences were very different from each other. We had a good time on Imagination and I am glad we gave it a try, but Princess is probably more for us.

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I woud say to try Carnival Again

I would Sugguest I Seven Day Curise

It is not ture as metioned on earliwer boards that they only use older ships for 3 & 4 day Cruises, Currently their newest ship the Miracle is out of Jacksonville doing short runs to the Bahamas and their Oldest Ship the Jubilee which they are about to sell is doing a seven day run in the Southern Carr untill the end of May and then also will move to Jacksonville

I would suggest you try a newer ship just inquire about it''s age when you book the crusie. I would not take the Miracle right now but by Feburay it should be Ok the staff also needs time to get acustomed with the ship in order to provide good service

As for the Grand Buffett I think Carnival is the only Crusie line who still offers Buffets at Midnight
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Personally I would probably try another line - maybe RCL who does short cruises. Not all cruise lines are for all people. I love Carnival. I like the ship designs and the "fun" atmosphere of the ships but I've met others that would really prefer RCL and the elegance of the ship and the better service. It sounds like that may be more your style. I'd hate to see you stop cruising just because you haven't found the right ships for you. Debbie
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I'll have to say that the more recent CCL ships are much more elegant than those made before the mid 90's.

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try the Carnival Triump. It was a great ship and had good shows and intertainment!
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