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Old May 30th, 2004, 06:19 PM
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Just got back from the Miracle on May 16. Only bad experience was kids in the hot tub. So many you could barely get a toe in. Little ones with "swimmies" on up to about age 5 yrs. My husband and I ventured in with the attitude that we weren't going to let it bother us. We'll we under estimated our patience. One kid as soon as we got in did a cannonball in the hot tub. There were other adults in the pool but no one said a word. I did tell him to stop but he just laughed and did another one. Husband and I did get out real quick - with me making sure I splashed the offender as I got out.
Another annoyance is the towel savers by the pool who never ever appear at the pool.
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Old May 30th, 2004, 07:17 PM
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Dear MIracle Cruiser,
Hot tubs always seem to be filled with kids. Where are their parents??? Better yet where
are the Carnival Crew members?? They should tell the kids that the hot tubs are off
limits!!!!
Happy Sailing.......
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Old May 30th, 2004, 07:19 PM
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AMEN! Had the same experience on the Glory this past April. Kids should have their own area.... Hint Hint!
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Old May 30th, 2004, 07:55 PM
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Carnival does nothing about this at all. At least 6 couples on our Legend cruise in March approached security regarding this and they just shrugged their shoulders. I think we should all write to carnival management about lack of security. The parents dump there kids at the pool and dont watch them. We saw kids wandering all over the ship after 11pm when they should have been in bed or at least supervised. I know parents pay and want to vacation but give the rest of us a little respect and watch your children please. Also what is with the teenagers overtaking the disco until after 12 midnite, give me a break. They have the disco all day and all night too. Carnival really needs to rethink their policies regarding the kids.
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Old May 30th, 2004, 09:00 PM
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I have three children, 15, 10 and 8 - they are great kids but kids just the same. I will be cruising with them in August (22nd on Inspiration, in case you're booked and want to cancel because children will be there).

We are booked in 2 cabins and have paid adult fare for 4 people and a 3rd person supplement for the 5th person in our group - that said, I will not deny my children using ALL the ammenities they can during their cruise because some people would have children never seen from or heard - they are paying passengers just like you - no "kids stay free" on cruise lines - please respect that everyone has the right to enjoy, and I do mean everyone. How unfortunate for all of you that the children you saw on the cruise were misbehaved and unsupervised - shame on their parents.

The thing about Carnival is that it is affordable for families (and singles and others). I won't complain about the single women and men on the cruise who are on the prowl for a bed mate each night and overtaking the gym, the hot tubs, the disco and other areas in hopes of catching the eye of a suitable mate - even if they hit on my husband or myself - I figure "hey, they are looking for fun - goodluck to them" - I won't complain about a good many things as everyone really is entitled to their fun - but I also won't accept anyone complaining about my full fare paying children making the periodic appearance in the hot tub, disco, bingo hall, dining rooms, and any other public areas on the ship.

Perhaps, to those who would rather not see children, they might want to consider an "adults only" resort holiday or a more expensive cruiseline with more exclusionary policies.

Remember we were all once children too.

No offense intended, just a respectful "other point of view" - happy cruising to everyone!
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Old May 30th, 2004, 09:16 PM
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CanadynGril -

Your point is well taken, but I think the issue here are that children are not permitted in the hot tub at any time, and there are signs around clearly stating this. I believe this was part of the original posters issue.

I was fortunate - I noticed no misbehaving children on my recent Paradise cruise, and certainly no children in the hot tub. I only hope others can have such a pleasant experience as I did.

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Old May 30th, 2004, 09:47 PM
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Like I said my husband and I DID try to ignore the kids and enjoy the hot tub by trying to use the hot tub even loaded with kids. However, adults should supervise their kids closely. Accidents do happen. The kid could have injured himself or someone else by cannonballing into the hot tub. Also, I do not believe a hot tub is a healty place for a young child. It seems the pools were empty of children, but the spas loaded.
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Old May 30th, 2004, 09:53 PM
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Another point. what parent would want their children running through the disco or hanging out in the casino (with all the smokers). There are places that are for the adults and these are two of them. Kids under 12 should not have the run of the ship. There are dangererous and inappropriate places that kids should not be allowed and the bars, discos, and casinos are a few.
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Old May 31st, 2004, 12:03 AM
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Also, if I may add, the kids have their own place where WE can't go, we don't get to go EVERYWHERE on the ship and neither should they. I do understand that they are "full paying guests" but, as rules and such are stated that they are not permitted in certain area's, they should be there.


here's an idea, how about during the day, we go to the "kids clubs" and act totally stupid and annoy them!!!!
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Old May 31st, 2004, 01:12 AM
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Im 16 and going on my first cruise next week, would adults care if teens go in the hot tubs, Im sure teens would look for hot tubs that had less adults and be less "wild" than the little kids
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Old May 31st, 2004, 08:22 AM
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I do respect your point of view. I love children, have two myself and 2 grandaughters. If they went on the cruise with me and there were signs posted in the capers and on the hot tubs that they were for 18 and older, I would respect the RULES and not allow my kids in the hot tubs. That is only my OPINION. Kids are great but only as great as the parents that have them
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Old May 31st, 2004, 08:33 AM
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Hot tubs in the SPA area don't have any kids but for me they were way too hot. Felt like I was being scalded. The tubs on deck seem lukewarm.
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Old May 31st, 2004, 08:47 AM
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HI CANADYGIRL
WE WILL BE ON THE CRUISE WITH YOU. GREAT REPLY SHAME ON THE PARENTS HOPE TO MEET YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. FROM THE LOOKS OF THE POSTINGS ON HERE WE ARE THE ONLY ONES ON THIS TRIP. WE HAVE 3 GROWN
CHILDREN AND 3 GRANDCHILDREN NEVER DID LET THEM RUN LOOSE LIKE THAT HOPE TO SEE YOU IN AUG.
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Old May 31st, 2004, 09:24 AM
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Just to make it clear. I'm not against parents using hot tub with their children or teens being able to use hot tubs. What I do have a problem is with kids 6 years and younger using them with no parent in sight.
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Old May 31st, 2004, 10:17 AM
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On my April 12th Miracle cruise there were lots of kids in the hot tubs too. That was because it was so windy and chilly the pool was too cold. The only day I let my child in the hot tub was on a port day when there weren't too many people hanging around the pool. Nobody was in the hot tub at the time so I went over with her. At one point another adult came to use it so I took my daughter out of it. There definetly is a lack of parent supervision at the pools though.
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Old May 31st, 2004, 12:50 PM
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is it ok to have kids in the hot tub if I am in there with them ? Or is it strictly 18 & older ? I know my kids will want to go in the hot tub.....and they are pretty well behaved , respectful of others etc.
I would not allow them in there without me anyway....but I like to follow the rules.
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Old May 31st, 2004, 03:22 PM
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When we cruised in April we noticed the hot tubs jammed with kids too, with no noticeable parents around. I think Carnival needs to be aware of this as a safety issue, potential area for injuries and lawsuits. If they say no kids under 15, but don't enforce it, aren't they creating an unsafe situation? I'm quite certain that kids shouldn't be in hot tubs because they can be so hot, and since they are smaller, without the body mass of adults, their blood pressure could drop more quickly?

I never noticed any children misbehaving in the hot tubs, just congregating. Probably because the pool was so chilly.
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Old May 31st, 2004, 04:10 PM
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It isn't a matter of liking or disliking children. It is a matter of what is right and wrong and children doiong cannonballs, swimming, and snorkeling in the hot tub is wrong. Healthwise children have absolutely no business in a hottub. I have had words with parents that leavbe their little terrors unattended to splash and raise cane in the hot tub and have told kids to get out when they misbehaved. Only once did a parent come to complain and I pointed out the sign to him and told him if he didn't like it, see security. His kid had no business there and even less because of his behaviour.
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Old May 31st, 2004, 10:08 PM
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I can't and won't disagree with any comments about parents and their need to be responsible for their children. Concern for their safety, comfort of others and general good manners would seem in order and I can assure you that my children will be children - well behaved and very courteous children.

Enjoy all!

Tracey from Waterloo Ontario Canada

P.S. Thanks Joyce - look forward to bumping into you as well - I'm sure there will be lots of families with children but keep your eyes open for a family with two active and adorable dark haired girls (10 and 8) and a tall and micheviously handsome son (15). My husband and I are both dark haired too, though I'm growing my fair share of grey.
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Old June 1st, 2004, 06:35 AM
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The hot tubs on the Lido deck are not hot at all, atleast it wasn't when we cruised. They were like a luke warm bath.

I think Carnival needs to enforce the rules also. Yes, I did let my well behaved daughter hang around the edge of the hot tub....shame on me!
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Old June 1st, 2004, 09:21 AM
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The Triumph in May was filled with children wearing snorkels and goggles and doing cannonballs in the hot tub. Signs clearly stated NO CHILDREN! Security did nothing. However, if an adult got into the hot tub with a drink in hand, security was all over them.
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Old June 1st, 2004, 10:55 AM
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I am the parent of 3 girls (3 years, 7 years, and 9 years old). I was debating on adding my two cents, but after reading some of these comments, I feel compelled. My children are so well behaved that we have had total strangers come to our table in restaurants to comment on how well behaved they were.
Having said that, children DO NOT belong in the hot tub period! I donít care if the hot tub is empty or if they are in there with a parent. 1. It is clearly stated that children are not permitted. And 2. It is not safe for children (especially small ones) to be in a hot tub. The National Spa & Pool Institute has a safety guide for hot tubs. I suggest all parents read it. http://www.nspi.org/userdata/sensible_spa.rtf
I will be on a short cruise without my kids later this month. I do not want to see kids in areas that they do not belong in. I love kids and even coach tee ball and softball, but Iím getting away from my kids for a few days with my wife. I donít want to see kids running around the ship unsupervised or in the hot tub.
Letís get one thing straight. Itís not the kids fault. Itís the parents fault. Kids will be kids and they will want to have fun. Itís up to the parents to teach them right from wrong. Unfortunately, some of the parents on the cruises are just like the parents of the kids I coach. Their kids are uncontrollable and the parents just sit there too busy talking on their cell phones or chatting it up with other parents or even worse, watching and not caring enough to say anything.
Wow. I feel better now!
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Old June 1st, 2004, 11:31 AM
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I agree Glen--

I think alot of you are missing the point originally stated. Kids are not allowed in the hot tubs and people have the right to say something about it especially if there is a policy that says so.

Taking offense because you have children that maybe cruising with you is not the issue. I have little ones too, but guess what....they will not be cruising with me, and if the were I would not let them play around in the hot tub or roam around the ship at all times of the night.

I personally can give a rats backside if kids are on the ship having fun. They need a vacation too. But I also think they should be supervised at all times.
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Old June 1st, 2004, 11:45 AM
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I don't mind kids (out of diapers) in hot tub with parents. Teenagers that are respectful. But we have had problems with unsupervised kids about 8 and younger in the hot tubs. I'm a BIG MOUTH - so I did yell at the kids when they started going under and spitting on each other (how completely unsanitary!) and then one girl ended up on the lap of an adult male and he and his wife were about to get out when I yelled at the girls. They started up again and again I told them they could stay if they didn't misbehave - they got out!! Where are the parents???
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Old June 1st, 2004, 01:49 PM
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Tracey,
We are SO looking forward to this trip. Perhaps we will find you after all. There are 4 of us - my hubby and I, and my sister and her husband. All of our kids are grown, which obviously means, ---- we're not 29 any more And we have our share of that gray creeping into our hair. We'll keep our eyes open for you. Since nobody has answered any of our roll calls - I'm thinking maybe there will only be 9 of us on that ship !! We should have GREAT service is that is the case .

See you in August..
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Old June 1st, 2004, 04:50 PM
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Okay people......yes there is a policy about children under 18 not allowed in hot tubs. Now, how many of you didn't have your first drink until you turned 21????? There's a policy for that too.

Have fun all on your next cruise!
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Old June 1st, 2004, 05:26 PM
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Amen to you I agree with everything you say. In reference to someones comment about drinking before 21, yes that is true but would you let a 5 year old drink. Please put things in perspective, we are not talking about teenagers (16-18) hear we are talking about toddlers and 10 year olds. Toddlers dont know any better but my children at 10-15 knew to respect adults and the rules. Thank you
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Seems to me the issue here is rules. Which rules are OK to break. Insisting that kids follow all of the rules make everyones life easier. The "that doesn't mean my little angels" attitude makes everyone uncomfortable. When the sign says No one under 18 allowed, it means exactly that. Kids are not restricted from much of the ship, and I am sure that they can get their moneys worth on the 100 other activities, and still respect the rules. Who decides what rules are OK to bend or break when mom and dad are not around?

And No I am not "hung up" on rules. I have broken my share and someone elses share too...did it make me a better person?..I don't think so..Did I break any with the blessing and/or encouragement of my parents?..No way!

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Old June 1st, 2004, 10:48 PM
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It has been my experience that the hot tubs are NOT HOT. They are lukewarm at best so therefore I hardly think a child life is endangered by sitting in lukewarm water( they do bathe in warm water you know) .

BUT>>> they are indeed risking their life when they jump or "cannon ball" into water that is three feet deep!! As an adult I would have no problem enforceing a " no jumping rule" no want to take their child home in a wheelchairi do they!
As for teens, I see no reason , if they ae civilized , that they should not be able to use the hot tub, their bodies are often quite big enough( a 14 yr old boy can easliy be 5"8" and 150 pounds, bigger than many grown women) and if their behavoiur is fine then I say that the rule is stupid and discrimanates against a fare paying passenger.
Just my opinion , and BTW on our last cruise we truly saw no poorly behaved kids.
we did encounter one or two highly drunken adults in public spaces though!!

P S I have three kids of my own and yes I would sure as heck give them grief if they behaved in a wild or rude way!
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Old June 2nd, 2004, 08:44 AM
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After reading all of the comments--

I must say that it is amazing how people can start to totally miss the point and go way out into left field. How did drinking before the age of 21 come out of kids not being allowed in the hot tub.
If you read the original comment made, MiracleCruiser is refering to "Little Ones" as in children under the age of 10. I'm sure that is what the policy is reffering to--little children.
No one said anything about teenagers being in the hot tub, drunkin adults, or children being endangered because the water is luke warm or too hot. I don't care if the water is cold, the point is--again, little children are not suppose to be in the hot tub.

Let's stick to the real issue here.


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