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Old December 20th, 2005, 01:24 PM
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I have read on the net that Carnival is choosing to avoid Cozumel in favor of Costa Maya. This is confirmed by my travel agent too.
anyone who has shore excursions should cancel before you sail.
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I have no shore excursions booked, but tnx for the info anyway. We can redirect our plans and see what to do in CM.
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Is that a new change? We just returned from the Elation and we did stop at Cozumel.
Thanks for the info!
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HEY STAR TREKKER DH & I are on FASCINATION 01/30/2006 and they sent me an email stating that ALL Carnival's cruises are being re-routed to Calico!!! I am a little disappointed and have chosen to cancel. I am not interested in going to Calico at all. :evil: momrek06
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I wouldn't mind -- I have been to Cozumel numerous times! Would be something different.
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We saw on Carnival's website that our cruise on the Liberty 1/15/06 is going to Costa Maya. Apparently they are refunding anyone who had already purchased shore excursions for Cozumel.
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Costa Maya is beautiful and holds a lot of unspoiled beauty...it's quickly headed to the same volume of commercialism as Cozumel or Grand Cayman...so now is truly the time to go!! We had a blast and enjoyed the more layed back visit.
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We are on the BLiberty 12/24 sailing and are now stopping at Costa Maya. Was there last year, it is a great place with lots to do. The Jungle Beach Break is a lot of fun. CArnival confirmed with me that we will receive an onborad credit for the excursions booked for Cozumel. However, have to wait to get on the ship to make excurions plans for Costa Maya, standard protocol when they switch a port.
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We are booked on Victory in Feb and was told Costa Maya may be substituted for Cozumel, which will be great for us. If you are rerouted
to Costa Maya, check out the Uvero Beach shoretour through Carnival.
It has lots to do, beach chairs, palm trees, a great open bar, shopping,
pier, water sports, clean beach, and running water rest rooms. We loved
our time there last year and would jump at the chance to return. Cozumel
was such a beautiful island before Wilma and we have decided to either just
go ashore and look around or have the ship to ourselves. We have been
to Cozumel 4 times and would rather remember her beauty. Anyway,
Costa Maya has a great shopping/beach/pool/bar/ area at the pier.
Warning: The Costa Maya pier is very very long and is a 10-15 min
walk from the ship to land. They do have intermitten shuttles, but they
fill up fast. Please keep this in mind when timing your shoretours.
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We are on the Triumph Jan 21st and we have been notified that we are going to Cozumel although our itinery has been changed from 7 til midnight to 7 til 6pm. We are quite happy we are going to Cozumel, if this changes though we will adjust. Life is that way sometimes, just gotta go with the flow.

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We were on the Conquest Dec 4-11 and we went to Cozumel. I had never been and wasn't disappointed some shops that were farther away from the pier were still under construction but we had a good time. All we did was shop since the cancelled our Segway excursion.
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As of right now Liberty, Victory, Glory, and Valor will keep visiting Costa Maya instead of Cozumel. This information from a very reliable source:

Carnival Liberty, Carnival Victory, Carnival Glory, Carnival Valor (a spokeswoman tells us that itineraries will remain this way at least until April 2006; they'll re-evaluate at that time).

This way is a reference to going to Costa Maya instead. Aparently the complaints about the long lines for tenders has been heard. Cozumel needs to focus on fixing the piers first it appears. If Cozumel does not fix the piers soon Costa Maya could develop into a bigger cruise port pretty quickly, and possibly give Cozumel a run for its money over the next couple of years.

My opinion is that Cozumel was becoming overcrowded (espcially on days that had 6 or so cruise ships in port). Really 4 cruise ships should be the max for most ports. Now with more mega mega ships being created I could see 4 ships being way too many people in almost all ports (that could be over 13,000 people).
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OK -- I'm totallly confused now. We are going on the Glory in April to the Eastern Carribbean - and at the time we booked the Glory had been in Florida. Is it not in Florida?? I'm confused. Would they change ships on us??
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Cheryl, I see you are going on the Conquest in January 2007. I was also looking to go around that time. Did you book through a travel agent with a group or an individual booking.
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We LOVED Costa Maya! You can rent a golf cart and drive to the little village of Mahuhual for a delightful day on the beach. The little shopping village at the end of the pier didn't hold our interest long, but get out an explore!

The pier at Costa Maya is long, but you'd have to walk pretty darn slow to make it a 15 minute walk!

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Actually its Mardi Gras time (early Feb 2007). Not that it matters to much any more -- but at that time, I liked to get away while everyone was coming to New Orleans (conquest was in N.O) at the time. I was actually thinking of changing it to go up to Canada or something -- but I have an aft cabin (got the last one) and not sure if I want to give that up. I book thru Cruises Only. I have always booked through them them and prob always will. I have not had a problem with them and always get my tickets 3-4 weeks ahead of sailing!
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It seems some carnival ships are going to Cozumel and others are not. The Triumph went to Conzumel in late November and the fiasco I had envisioned by using large passenger ferries as tenders certainly came true. The reduction in port time plus the long waits to leave the ship and return to the ship virtually ruined my plans about that particular stop. I was extremely disappointed in how the Carnival Corporation handled this situation. Sure Cozumel needs the tourist dollars to recover from Wilma, but ship passengers spent large amounts of money for a vacation and not disaster relief. We can take a tax write off if we do that and not use our vacation money for it. It is true that Cozumel is recovering at a rapid pace and the dune buggy excursion I took as a replacement for my original plans was really nice because it was relatively uncrowded and resembled the Cozumel I knew in the 70s. Nevertheless I am of the opinion that the corporation was considering only the "bottom line" in going there without an established tender companies in place.

Costa Maya passengers will find a great time and many things to see and do and it is not yet COMPLETELY "touristicated" like Cozumel has been in recent years. The Carnival cruise company needs to have some consideration for their clientele and not their "bottom line" all the time. John NM
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I was in Coz yesterday, and we didn't have any problems. It is true that the time is cut short, because they don't think it is safe to tender after dark, but there was one tender after another, and the only time it was a pain, was when everyone waited until the last minute to come back on ship.

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Yes Luanne the time was cut short.........by seven hours not counting the lines to get off the ship and the time to get back on the ship so in real tourist time it was cut by about 9 hours. On the Triumph they used the 800 passenger ferries to tender and they filled them up. before leaving and before boarding. It takes a long time to load that many people many of whom arent exactly in tip top shape if ya know what I mean. I was cognizant of that and returned to the ship at around 3:30 and we waited in line in the sun for one hour and ten minutes, the line stretched from what is left of the pier almost all the way to the taxi stations. There were some smaller ferries to get the stragglers from Fat Tuesday's later and I watched this process from my balcony and it was anything but smooth and or fast. Perhaps it worked better at one of the two other docks that were apparently being used.

Carnival knew about the shortened time in port and were still telling me on the telephone that the Triumph was still scheduled to be there until midnight on the 28th of November up until my last call to them on the 23rd. Message board public knew that the tenders (ferries being used as tenders actually) were not running after dark and I doubt the harbor master would permit that anyway. Many people signed up for that cruise because of the time in port and were purposely misled probably to avoid cancelations and have people be frustrated and annoyed later rather than sooner.

Sure I had a great time anyway, but glossing over the reality of what really went on would be somewhat disengenuine for me.

Another interesting point about this is that at intitial booking I had thought I had plenty of time to do what I planned and also get buzzed on 15 peso Coronas at the local bars during the evening BZZZT Wrong! Wonder how many thousands of dollars Carnival raked in from the bar tabs because of the shortened schedule. Carnival didnt cause Wilma and the destruction, but they sure as heck knew about the implications of that far before they informed the paying public about it.

Carnival still is my favorite cruise line, but they really are "dropping the ball" on this situation when there were ports easily in reach of a 20 plus knot ship that have either piers or established tender operations. And yes I know it used to be a tender port and it is now and for the immediate future, but it hadn't been a tender port for many years and lacked the volume of cruise ship traffic. John NM
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John,

I understand what you are saying. For those of you out there reading this. No matter what your tickets say or Carnival employee tells you, the Tenders have to stop at sun down. It is unsafe, and against the rules, until all is right for Cozumel. We were just there two days ago, and you could still see debris in the water. not a lot, but enough to mess up a ferry if it ran over it. As I sit here, our tickets say we will be there day after tomorrow, until way after dark, but I know that isn't true and I am not expecting anything like that. This country has been hit very hard, and it isn't a matter of just changing the batteries and make things all better. If you want a perfect Cozumel, you need to postpone your cruise until it meets your standards. Cozumel is still a good place, but limited on what you can do. It like N.O. will one day be back better than ever.

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Luanne, well as I think about although my cruise experience is more limited than yours.........I am not aware of any tendering of passengers at night in places ive been on cruise ships. So under the circumstances Cozumel would not be unusual, but Carnival might engage some printers of the tickets and tell the phone employees what they are doing. John NM
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Costa Maya is a nice change from Cozumel. I have been to both and I
am very very happy to hear the Victory will visit there on our
Feb cruise.

Notice: The pier is extra long and you will need at least 15 minutes to get
from the ship to land. There are shuttles, but they fill up fast.
Try Uvero Beach, It's great
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We are scheduled for the Conquest Jan 22 cruise which includes Cozumel. I questioned Carnival about all of the ports on this trip being opened. She put me on hold and said all were open and never mentioned anything about these delays. We have been to Costa Maya and Cozumel several times and love both. The fishing village at Costa Maya has the most beautiful beach area. If you go there, look for Ricardo's (hope it was not destroyed in Wilma). He and his beautiful wife are wonderful people and are so friendly. Prices are very, very reasonable and he is right on the beach. Be sure to sign the guest book.

We were in Cozumel in October, last ship out before Wilma destroyed the pier and the shops. We were just devastated by their loss and hope that we can at least get ashore and bring them some much needed revenues.

Anyone have any news on Chakkanub State Park there, we will be interested.

Also, wondering about the ports at Grand Caymans and Montego Bay, which we missed on our October cruise due to Hurricane Wilma. We were also last group on the Sensation out of New Orleans. Sailed the day before Katrina hit New Orleans in August. Lost car there. Will be glad when Mobile and New Orleans is back on the cruise schedule. It is a long drive to Galveston and/or Port Canaveral for us who live in Mobile and love cruising.
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hey im not a seabee but I would think you will end up with tendering in Cozumel without a pier Cayman ought to be fine before next hurricane season and ocho Rios too. Cayman still has Ivan damage from 2004 but its fine........have fun! John NM oh that state park should be fine by the time you get there as it was mostly road problems.
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I agree. It would be nice to have New Orleans terminal up and running! I have never cruised out of AL - as N.O. is only 2 hours away. I don't especially like cruising down the Mississippi (guess cuz Ive seen it so often), but it sure is convenient! Have cruised out of Galveston and loved it tho!
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I was wondering if anyone has went on the Sea Treking in Cozumel? We are schedule for this next month.

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