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This is my very first cruise, so I am very unfamiliar with the policy. I know this is a very sensitive subject, but I have to ask about tipping on behalf of children. My family will be cruising with two children, ages 9 and 3. Is it typical for people to tip the same amount ($70/pp) to the staff for services rendered to children as they do for adults? All comments welcomed! Thanks!!
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Interesting question... If I had children to go with me, I would tip as if they were adults, Just my HO.
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When my children were little, I felt that the staff had to worker a little harder, to keep up with the little things even though I tried to make it easier their was more sand brought in from the ocean, more crumbs from the food ect, so I certainly did tip the same.
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Yes, you should tip the same amount for your children as you do for yourselves.
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I always tipped the regular amount for the kids, the staff does go out of their way to make their vacation the best, they do deserve the same amounts, IMHO.
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I believe that if you have the tips added to your Sign&Sail cruise account that children are charged the same amount as adults. We cruised 2 years ago with 2 children 5yr & 9 yr and they charged us the 70.00 per person charge for the kids.
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If the children eat in the dining room, and use the cabin then I believe the amount should be the same. They usually require a bit more work then adults. Well, some adults.

An infant may be less, especially on the dining room part.

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I am appreciating all the responses! The main reason that I questioned that amount is that the "plan" is to do most of the kids' dining at the buffet and then they can go to Camp Carnival while we eat in the main dining room. Again, just the "plan". But, since you say the tips also go towards the waitstaff in the buffet area, I just wondered if it should be less. I completely agree that kids can be more work than most adults, usually. Thanks!
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A friend of mine is going on her first cruise and she is taking her 4 children. They won't be using the formal dining, just the buffet. They also booked an adjoing room. What would be an acceptable tip??? At the suggested rate she would owe $420, this seems alot for the kids. She also didn't get a very good rate on the cruise ($5000) no air either.

I usually get good rates and pay the normal tipping, but realize this is more than she can afford with cost of the cruise. Any suggestions??
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Just MHO, but when booking a cruise, all expenses should be considered before booking, including the cost of tips, thats all part of cruising. I would still tip the regular amount for kids, the staff actually works harder when kids are involved.
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I cruise with my four kids and we factor in the $10/pp per day for them too. Its all part of the cost of cruising. Whether they eat in the dining room or not there is still service involved.
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On Carnival they do factor in the full $10.00 per day per person regardless of age. However, NCL and Costa's guidelines for children's tips are half of that. So it varies by cruiseline. When we cruised the NCL Spirit we were so impressed by the children's facilities we took the $5.00 per day, per child extra that we would have paid on other cruise lines and gave it to the Camp Counselors. They work so hard and always deserve something extra.
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We tip the full recommended amount for our two boys ages 11 & 9. We also make sure to take care of the Camp Carnival staff also. No one aboard ever mentions them when it comes to tipping, but it is appropiate, and the amount is at your discretion. They work very hard, and they really appreciate getting tipped!!
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A friend of mine is going on her first cruise and she is taking her 4 children. They won't be using the formal dining, just the buffet. They also booked an adjoing room. What would be an acceptable tip??? At the suggested rate she would owe $420, this seems alot for the kids. She also didn't get a very good rate on the cruise ($5000) no air either. ??
Sorry - It just doesn't matter how much she paid for the cruise, the tips of $10 per passenger per day is a very fair amount. Regardless of where they have their meals, there are service people involved. During the day, most of the dining room waiters are working in the Lido Buffet area.
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okay, I know I'm going to cause a stir with what I say here. We cruised for the first time in December on the Liberty with our two children, 4 and 8. We went to the formal diningroom a total of 3 times including two breakfasts, the rest we ate at the buffet. The service in the formal dining room was good once out of the three times....the other times the servers were short and seemed to be put out when we asked them anything. The buffet staff were like deer in headlights when ever we asked for assistance they claimed they didn't speak english. The funny thing is, on the last day after the tip speach from the crusie director, they all suddenly learned english and mingled with the passengers.

In contrast, the Camp Carnival staff were top notch. The kids loved going there and everytime we went in, they were polite and showed a geniune sense of care for our kids.

We didn't feel guilty when we adjusted our tip at the purser desk taking off the amount for the dining staff. We then provided an envelope with that money to the kids camp staff.

A tip should not be automatic, it needs to be earned. The wait staff need to know this and if more people weren't embarrassed to adjust it before they leave, then they will get the message.

What made it easier for us was the purser was Canadian like us. What's the difference between a Canadian and a canoe? A canoe tips. Canadians tip too, but only when it is deserved.
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We tipped the same amount for our kids (10&5) as we did for ourselves. Unfortunately, we did not tip the Camp Carnival staff....We didn't realize that was an option. We did however, give them great reviews on those comment cards. Our kids had a wonderful time at camp and the counselors were great with them. Apparently those comment cards mean a great deal and we mentioned them all by name so hopefully that will help them in the future.
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quote="Canuckcruiser"]okay, I know I'm going to cause a stir with what I say here. We went to the formal diningroom a total of 3 times including two breakfasts, the rest we ate at the buffet..........
We didn't feel guilty when we adjusted our tip at the purser desk taking off the amount for the dining staff.

It shouldn't cause a stir.........however, it should be pointed out that you did the entire wait staff an injustice by removing the dining staff tips.

As I said above, most of the evening dining room staff works in the Lido buffet area during b'fast and lunch. Since you DID avail yourself of food in that area, you STIFFED all those hard-working waiters. What a shame.
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like I said, a tip shouldn't be expected, it needs to be earned. The wait staff were below average, the kids camp were above expectations. If the wait staff realized they needed to show some extra effort to be tipped, we wouldn't see so many postings of people disappointed with the service they received. The cruise isn't free....it cost enought and as guests, we should expect good service.
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Having done 19 cruises so far, we have never been disappointed with our service and it has never been below average. If we experiened a problem we addressed it with wonderful results. The waitstaff are not mindreaders and don't know everyone preferences...let the know early on what your likes and dislikes are. They are there to please. Try asking them about themselves and get to know them too. They are people too, not slaves and they should expect to be treated with respect too. They have family they haven't seen in months and they miss very much. Tipping IS part of the cost of the cruise! JMHO
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I don't know where you get the impression I treated them disrespectful. We are friendly people and found the wait staff were not helpful or friendly. We do expect to be treated well, that should come without asking. We didn't call them on it at the time but decided that as a group, the resteraunt staff didn't deserve the specified tip. We did leave on the tip that included the buffet staff and room staff. In fact, we left something extra for the room staff. So, like I said before, it should not come automatically just because it is the cost of cruising. The rude staff will never get the message if we keep on giving it to them despite poor service. I respect they are away from their family, but that doesn't excuse them for not providing good service.
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They have family they haven't seen in months and they miss very much. Tipping IS part of the cost of the cruise! JMHO
It that the excuse for poor service? Tipping is part of the cruise if it is earned; it is not automatic.

Do you tip 20% for poor service in a resturant? If you do, I'll wait your table everytime.

Back to the OP's question. If the service is there, then yes, tip as you would an adult for the same service.
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Anybody can 'justify' not tipping anyway they wish. It's just another way for CHEAPSKATES to get out of tipping. There are people like that in any restaurant, hotel, or on a cruise.

This is a general remark made to nobody in particular. 8)
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thanks Irish Shark for bringing it back to the original posting. (my fault for getting it off track). I guess the point I was trying to make is to not forget the Camp Carnival staff. I don't know why they are not part of the tip briefing from the CD. If any group of staff that went above the call of duty, it was them. They were happy and friendly people who we trusted with the care of our children. We trusted them so much that we left the kids with them so we could do an excurison in Mexico. This said alot about the staff.....it was a huge step for us to do this. We got to know where most of them were from and how much they missed their family. Good thing is, being away from their family didn't cause them to provide poor service.
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It amazes me how people like to spend my money, if the children will be eating with the camp carnival staff on several of the nights by all means adjust the tips at the pursers desk. My last three cruises with the kids I have adjusted the childrens tips to 50%, placing a slice of pizza down is not the same as serving a four course dinner. But I did tip the camp carnival staff.

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We were on the opposite side of things. When we started cruising, we took all three of our kids with us. They had their own cabin and the cabin steward just treated them superbly. They ate all meals in the dining room and the wait staff also did a perfect job helping the kids with the food (cutting it up for our 3 year old son, etc.).

We not only gave them the recommended tip, plus about $100 each extra. This was back in the late 80's, so a $100 was really a great extra tip.
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