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Old November 16th, 2006, 04:43 PM
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I work with "Good MorningAmerica" and am looking for anyone currently aboard the Liberty. We are doing a story on the norovirus. If you or someone you know is aboard the ship please email me at andrea.beaumont@abc.com
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I am not a passenger on this one. But I am scheduled to go on the Liberty on the 25th of November. Its pretty scary to know and am wondering if we could be in jeopardy on the ship.

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Hi Andrea -

Before you & the rest of the media start ripping apart the cruise lines with negative talk (I've yet to see the media report something positive), keep in mind on this virus?

People came onboard already sick. The main reason this spreads is because PEOPLE (not the ship!) DO NOT wash their hands. If you view the various boards, you'll see the opinions of people regarding this topic & pretty much everyone comes to the same conclusion.

Steel doesn't cause germs - people do! Please keep this in mind when doing your report.
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I was booked on the Liberty 11-19-06 sailing, Carnival contacted me and I agreed to sail on 11-21-06.
Hope I did the right thing, is it SAFE ???
What can I do to avoid getting the NOROVIRUS ????
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What can I do to avoid getting the NOROVIRUS ????
Wash your hands and use the sanitizers. Don't touch rails, elevator buttons, and "common" stuff.

If you see somebody who looks sick, RUN!

Some tips from the CDC ...

Can norovirus infections be prevented?

You can decrease your chance of coming in contact with noroviruses by following these preventive steps:

Frequently wash your hands, especially after toilet visits and changing diapers and before eating or preparing food.

Carefully wash fruits and vegetables, and steam oysters before eating them.

Thoroughly clean and disinfect contaminated surfaces immediately after an episode of illness by using a bleach-based household cleaner.

Immediately remove and wash clothing or linens that may be contaminated with virus after an episode of illness (use hot water and soap).

Flush or discard any vomitus and/or stool in the toilet and make sure that the surrounding area is kept clean.
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I think it is important to remember that Norovirus can and does occur anywhere, land and sea. It's interesting that everytime there is an outbreak at a school or nursing home there aren't all kinds of stories in the press.

The following quote is from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's website. There is a lot more information on their website if anyone is interested.

"Among the 232 outbreaks of norovirus illness reported to CDC from July 1997 to June 2000, 57% were foodborne, 16% were due to person-to-person spread, and 3% were waterborne; in 23% of outbreaks, the cause of transmission was not determined. In this study, common settings for outbreaks include restaurants and catered meals (36%), nursing homes (23%), schools (13%), and vacation settings or cruise ships (10%)."
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Thanks for the Info !!!
I feel Better already !!!
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Doesn't everyone see the number of people who do not wash their hands after using the lavatory? No wonder people get these illnesses. People should start calling others out when they see this behavior. I know it's a pretty disgusting subject, but if people would just take care of themselves we wouldn't have these type of outbreaks.
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Hello Andrea,

From what you've already read, you'll find most cruisers are not too concerned about norovirus.

If you do this report, singling out cruise lines, I (like Irish Shark) hope you'll also do a report on schools, nursing homes, hotels, airlines, etc.

The norovirus is "just" the stomach flu, which I'm sure we've all had at one time or another. (Of course, I don't want it!)

While it would be no fun, it's also not something I'd be overly concerned about while cruising!

I also agree with Chris M, WASH YOUR HANDS after using the restroom!

FiftyOuts,

You'll probably be on the cleanest ship sailing! I wouldn't worry about a thing!
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Dont blame it on Carnival.
Sometimes it seems like all you guys do is ruin the cruising experiance for others by providing false information.

Every day I hear "Never will I take a cruise, hear about it on the news, I dont want to get sick!" Because news broadcasts blow things out of proportion. Its not Carnivals fault, and you never make that fact public, the cruise line can not prevent sick guests from boarding, as people lie.

So unless you are going to somehow protect the cruiseline, instead of blameing them, dont say anything.

I really mean good intentions, just when it scares people because the media makes a bigger deal then it really is, that upsets me!
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I was driving home from work yesterday, and heard on the radio there has been 19 outbreaks of Noro Virus in this city THIS month, at nursing homes and hospitals in the area.

Unfortunate that this can spread so easily, and people feel SO sick.

Fortunate that the illness generally lasts only 2 days.
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For what it's worth, here's my 2 cents.

This is a virus, it can be transmitted and caught anywhere at anytime. The difference is that on a cruise it has time to incubate and break out enmass, while in the rest of the world, one contacts it, goes home and gets sick one at a time, no story there.

So to fear this, one might as well hide in a closet.

As far as the ship is concerned, she now has health officials on board and they are inspecting her. When she arrives in Ft Lauderdale on Sunday she will be put into dry dock for 2 days and cleansed completely. She then, if they are sure she is clean sail on a 4 day cruise.

On the 25th she, along with us, will sail from Ft Lauderdale on what will probably be the cleanest ship on the sea.

Sit back, carry hand sanitizer in your pocket, use it frequently, relax, and ENJOY.
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We have had an outbreak in our city too...which has led to an outbreak at my work as well (which is not a hospital). I have had 7 people out with it on my team alone.

Most importantly...like it has already been mentioned many times...WASH YOUR HANDS OFTEN.
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I wander how long the virus can live on a cold dry surface??___...
If you get it on your fingers & rub your eyes as we all do, guess what, you are the next in line..
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I wander how long the virus can live on a cold dry surface??___...
"Noroviruses are relatively resistant to environmental challenge: they are able to survive freezing, temperatures as high as 60°C, and have even been associated with illness after being steamed in shellfish."

Pretty hard to kill it from freezing to steaming.
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We'll maybe Good Morning America will give a fair report on it looking at both sides.... I may have to switch to CBS for my morning news...
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Hey all,
I'm glad to read that nobody here is blaming carnival for it. It's true that the pax bring the virus onboard. Some question are made before joining the ship, and when a passenger is denied boarding for health reason the rest of the family is also complaining, but better them then 555 guests sick. I read the news on the cbs and it's ok, however the comments from some people are really mean, someone is blaming the crew???? The crew indeed come from the "3rd world" that it doesn't mean that they bring disease onboard. All crewmembers have to do medical exams periodically, and when a crew is sick is treated and if he still not good he is send home with expenses paid by carnival for medical treatment.
In my opinion is really easy to blame the crewmembers that are there working hard to survive them admit that you do not wash your hands
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n2199598.shtml
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have cruise three times and never been sick i hear on the news that
two people were sick when they came to the shipso don't blame this on carnival
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