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My GF and I have been on several cruises with Carnival and the main reason we started sailing with CCL is the fact that they did offer a topless deck to get away from all the kids. I am not happy that they removed the topless deck and there is hardly any effort put into removing the children from the Adult Only hot tubs as the picture describes above.

I was told by a customer service person in CCL that Carnival is going to a more family oriented type of cruise. I understand their choice, but we need places to get away from it all also and that deck was a saving grace for us. Carnival needs to also remember that not all families consist of people who have kids. On every ship I have been on they have had deck chairs available at any time (maybe not right next to the pool), but if they are using deck chair issues as the cause of this, that is just not going to solve any problems since ppl will not walk all those stairs just to find a deck chair up there. Heck they usually don't even walk to the back of the boat where there are always deck chairs one floor above the rear pool. The topless deck on some ships can only be accessed by going through the basketball court, you have to want to find it to find it. I do not understand why a pair of breasts can make some people uncomfortable. Maybe the next thing to go is the Adult Only hot tubs or maybe they will allow kids into the casino also. I know we can't (and don't want to) go into Camp Carnival and hang out, so why can't we have an area where kids can't go.

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Where did you hear/read that Carnival was eliminating the topless deck??
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Hmmmm.. so exactly HOW am I going to get rid of my tan lines now?
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Hmmmm.. so exactly HOW am I going to get rid of my tan lines now?
And the Topless deck was alive and well, I did find it without too much trouble but it wasn't as easy as finding food on the Lido deck either. Actually, I do not want it to be TOO easy lest kids accidently find themselves on that deck.

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Where did you hear/read that Carnival was eliminating the topless deck??
It is in other cruise forums and I actually I am a travel agent also and my local rep confirmed to me that as of Feb 19th, 2007 there are no more topless decks. He was unaware of this until I brought it to his attention that I had read it somewhere and he checked and said "yes" I was correct. Not all the Carnival staff is aware of this change, but if they just ask a supervisor they will be informed. I am not sure why they have not put out a mass memo to their staff to inform them, but it hasn't happened as of yet.

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I would suggest that people write their complaints to bdickenson@carnival.com and also CC that email to media@carnival.com which will get it to the correct places for their complaints to be heard. Please keep the emails polite and firm that you want the topless decks back onboard.

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I would suggest that people write their complaints to bdickenson@carnival.com and also CC that email to media@carnival.com which will get it to the correct places for their complaints to be heard. Please keep the emails polite and firm that you want the topless decks back onboard.

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Appears that Uncle Bob may as well paint a pair of ears on the funnels if they are interested in becoming a family oriented cruiseline. I forgot they already have a line that does that....

I thought that the funnel deck was one of the things that set Carnival apart from other cruise lines. The main reason that we occupied the funnel deck area at all was that it was the only place that couples only could get away from "families". Also it was the only place where chair hogs didn't start placing their towels on at 7:00 AM.

I'm not against family vacations at all. Matter of fact I think that its great, but, for those of us who use this time to be together as a couple we shouldn't have to be "entertained" by these same families.

IMO this is a poor business decision. If Carnival wishes to become like other cruiselines then I suppose we can start shopping other cruiselines for cruises.

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I am confused. Many say that this is the only place to go to get away from the kids. I have seen plenty of places to go on Carnival ships where kids were not present.
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Me too Luanne, and I notice most of the people who took the time to post their displeasure were of the male persuasion.
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well, after looking at some men who like to go topless, I think Carnival should change the rules that make both sexes wear tops by the pool (VBG)

I agree with Luanne, I don't think the reason for a topless deck is to get away from the kids, you can always go to the ship's art auction or any dinner that liver is served

I frequently visit the Greek islands where total nudity is common and no one (but Americans) seem to get bent out of shape about it. Of course I never look (VBG)
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Perhaps while Carnival is wearing the censorship hat they should also remove all nude paintings from the Pride. Why stop there, they could also remove the casino on all of the ships because gambling is the work of the devil. I wish they would ban old French Canadian men from wearing speedos on their ships.......I am a gay man and could care less about womens breasts. I have a huge issue with the fact that Carnival seems to think they need to fix something that is not broken. This they can do so quickly yet they cant seem to get the boarding process at the Long Beach terminal fixed after how many years?
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Well honestly this situation is not anything earth shattering. I can't believe this has created such a stir. It's no secret that Carnival has found a lucrative market by catering to families and they have invested a lot of money to cater to them. If you are trying to avoid children and families you may want to consider trying a different cruiseline such as Oceania which makes no bones about it, they are not interested in catering to Families in the manner in which Carnival and several of the mainstream lines do. You will find few if any children there.
If you are truly just trying to find a place to get away from the chair hogs and the kids, perhaps you might attempt to lobby Carnival to keep the funnel deck as adult only and to enforce it, even if not topless.
Let's face it we all need to tolerant of one another. The vast majority of Carnival's clientele is American and like it or not, American norms are for women to cover their breasts when in public and public nudity does make some people uncomfortable. It is the culture we live in, right wrong or indifferent. While it may nice to tan with out lines on the top, is it really that big of a deal? I would think that few people are really that concerned about it.
It realy doesn't matter to me, but I am one of those family people who take my children on cruises. However, my kids do not go in the adult only hot tubs, take rides in the elevator, knock elderly people out of their wheelchairs or do any of those other annoying things I read about, but luckily have rarely seen.
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It seems that my last post was taken out of context again. Let me clarify if possible. First off I stated that I wasn't against families taking vacations Beenie. I'm sure that you are a responsible parent who doesn't let your children run wild but there are some who sail that do. Case in point. When we were on the Glory last summer a young girl about the age of 6 or 7 was running around the pool on the lido deck. She tripped and fell busting open her lip. After a good 2 minutes of crying for her mother and bleeding on the deck being assisted by myself and some other concerned passengers her Mother shows up and scolds her for running and acting like a child. Duh....

Come to find out the model Mother was off "saving" some chairs for her group and had to get more towels. When she was ask if she had the child signed up for camp carnival she replied "no, she didn't want her child to be around other children where she might get hurt"...... Go figure.

Luanne in response to your observation is yes we found some "open" chaise's that day. They were located right below the jogging track. We searched for them a good 15 minutes and it didn't take long to figure out why they were open. The wind had to be whipping down the deck a good 30 MPH so towels wouldn't stay on 'em.

The next day we visited the funnel deck. With the tarp up it had a manageable wind and there were no "saved" chairs there. Did the wife want to go, no really, but once we got there and noticed that it was quite and sunny and the top optional was just that, optional. We had an excellent day.... we visited the funnel deck every at sea day from then on.

My real concern is why the change. This is supposed to be an Adult Only area. Are some parents worried that their unsupervised kids may wander up there and see a bare breast? Heaven forbid that.

Okay I've vented and I'm sure this little novel is not gonna change a thing.
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Joey I did not take your post out of context, as a matter of fact I did not even refer to your post at all. I was speaking in general terms. You were not the only poster that claimed to escape to the funnel deck to avoid children or families.

I also believe that you will find ignorant, inconsiderate people where ever you go, with or without children, no matter what cruise line you sail, you will not be able to escape the "bonehead" factor and before someone accuses me of a personal attack, I am not calling anyone here a bonehead lol! But they are everywhere
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, your correct Beenie and most likely on more that a couple of points....
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I have to admit very little knowledge of the topless deck. I have only been up there once. There was a lady with boobs from "Boobs Are Us."
And a man with boobs as big as mine, but with a bathing suit that was to tight in the front. I love to read, so I noticed what he was reading. It must have been good, because he was able to read it upside down. I could care less if the captain is topless, but I do resent people complaining about Carnival and a business decision they have made.

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Luanne!! A man as big as you are and reading his book upside down? Scandolous! I have never been up there and have no reason to, whether to see the sights, have privacy or get away from kids. I don't bemoan the fact that others want the deck as it was though.
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I don't see how this change will make the ship any more family friendly. You can look thru the Carnival website, and it's not exactly advertised what's on the funnel deck. It's not an area that you are going to just happen to find yourself on, you have to go looking for it.
I have always assumed that there were other areas that were off limits to kids. I don't remember any children wandering into the disco or any of the many bars. If your going to make it a family ship, then are they also going to close the bars around the pool areas.
Plus, the people who wanted to wear the ultra small swimsuits (thongs, etc.) had a place to wear them. Now they may choose to wear those suits around the pool where the kids will be.

I just don't see how changing the allowed activities on the adult only funnel deck will make a ship that much more family friendly.
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I need to do some research on this, but didn't I read that the Funnel deck is being turned into something else?
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Hey Beenie,as I told you before,we only went up there to read anyways
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Luanne, I might be able to save you a step or two in your research. I read some weeks ago the the funnel deck on the Holiday was under going a change. Putt Putt golf was now being offered. Since I haven't been on the Holiday since that announcement to confirm or deny that news release I suppose that if I'm wrong beenie won't mind if you borrow her description of inconsiderate and unlearned passengers You can call me that with confidence.........
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Hey Will, I'm not the boobie police. I figure if people leave their cha cha's laying around, anyone is free to look at them lol!
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We (my wife and I) posted our disappointment last year on this same topic. I did send a letter to Carnival and got a response, but no change in their decision.

We had used the topless deck before and loved it. On our next trip on the Ship Holiday, we walked up there only to find it was turned into a putt putt course!

If enough people write to Carnival and complain, maybe they will bring it back!

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This topic has nothing to do with what people look like and who should and shouldn'tt go topless due to their appearance. This is the year 2007, we should be over that. Women should be allowed to go topless anywhere men are allowed. If this was done more, you would see less and less of men treating breast as a sex object. It's just skin.
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So sorry, I disagree with topless women. Go to the tanning salon to get rid of tan lines. Men get a grip and quit drooling over boobs you can't have, touch or taste! You can say what you want, but that is why you are up there. Go to the local gentlemen's club for your boob fix.

For those of you who want topless decks, do you want those perverted old men looking at your daughter's boobs? He would be a dead man!
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I agree with the previous post. Who cares about breasts. I think the entire Carnival fleet should go clothing optional....With the exception of very rough days at sea.....Clothing should be mandatory when the seas hit 6 feet or higher because I couldnt bear to watch the blubber bouncing show that would create.
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Hey Melody....I will be happy to stare at your boobies Oooppss!!...that's on another thread
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How many use this topless deck? From what I understand, very few use it for sunbathing, and as a matter of fact that deck seemed more suited towards solitary panoramas of the sea. I understand this is a touchy subject, but maybe it really is much ado about nothing. 8)
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Can anyone post the names of other Cruise Lines that offer "Adult Only" sunning decks?

(Without all the debate about who should and who shouldn't blah blah blah. )
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