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Old June 27th, 2007, 07:06 PM
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I am going on the Sensation for the 4 day cruise. I was looking at some web sites in the Bahamas. I didn't realize that the Bahamas is only 60 miles off the coast of Florida.

We have a day at sea traveling from Nassau back to Florida. What does it do for the day at sea? Does it go in circles or 2 miles per hour?

Anyone know of a site online that has a detail road map of Freeport? I couldn't find one and I look for a long time.

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A Day At Sea:

Depending on how far it is to the next port, a day at sea the ship may mean a day the the ship just sitting still in the water. The captain will usually seek out the location with the clearest weather and then cut the engines and just sort of park the ship in one location.

Or, if there are many miles to travel the ship will move fast at night, early in the morning, slow to a crawl during the day and then pick up speed again after dark.

If you are between the Bahamas and Florida, your ship will sit just 30 minutes off the coast of florida. Just outside of visual sight of the coast of Florida.

For a long cruise (7 days or more) or a port-intensive itinerary, a day at sea is a God sent gift because it allows you down time to just relax.

For a street map of Freeport. I would try Mapquest or Yahoo Maps.
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A Day At Sea:

Depending on how far it is to the next port, a day at sea the ship may mean a day the the ship just sitting still in the water. The captain will usually seek out the location with the clearest weather and then cut the engines and just sort of park the ship in one location.

Or, if there are many miles to travel the ship will move fast at night, early in the morning, slow to a crawl during the day and then pick up speed again after dark.

If you are between the Bahamas and Florida, your ship will sit just 30 minutes off the coast of florida. Just outside of visual sight of the coast of Florida.

For a long cruise (7 days or more) or a port-intensive itinerary, a day at sea is a God sent gift because it allows you down time to just relax.

For a street map of Freeport. I would try Mapquest or Yahoo Maps.
No details on either maps.

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Brian,

Freeport is on the northwestern part of the Bahamas, and Nassau is southeast. So I think when it leaves the Nassau port on Wednesday morning, it has a long way to go to get to Port Canaveral by thursday morning.

Good point though, I don't know that it goes at a slower pace as, say, a ship cruising to port canaveral from St Thomas.

Looking forward to the cruise! I can't wait to hear all about it before O go on mine!

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From mid-morning until dinner time most ships will all but stop on sea days. They have that down time figured into their schedule. Even though those ships are huge, they can move really fast. They do most of their travelling late at night while the passengers are sleeping. That is why we all sleep so well, the ship is rocking back and forth at full steam ahead.

The idea of a sea day is to allow the passengers to enjoy the ship while enjoying the weather with minimum rocking and movement. The captain usually will only move the ship around to find the sunshine.
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Most modern cruise ships will consider full speed around 18 - 20 knots. 21 to 23 mph.

A cruise ship must maintain some speed in order maintain stability. It will probably travel around 10 knots, depending on sea conditions. The routes and speed are well planned out in order to make it on time to the next port. I imagine you won't be breaking any "records" on your way back.

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especially on the Sensation since she has a propulsion problem she can't go full speed. That's why she is on the run she is on. She can go fast enough to make the ports on the route she's presently doing so don't worry!

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the real purpose of sea days is to get you to spend money onboard which keeps the overall price of your cabin at a reasonable rate (VBG)

I prefer sea days over port days and I'm sure the cruise lines are not happy with my contribution towards their goal..My sea day ritual include a spa treatment, the drink of the day and my $10 casino fit coupled with a great book, a nap on the balcony with my mp3 player on and people watching by the pool, so I don't care how fast or slow the ship moves
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Although I've only been on two Western Caribbean cruises, Elation and Conquest, using my GPS onboard we averaged between 15-20 knots day and night.
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Most modern cruise ships will consider full speed around 18 - 20 knots. 21 to 23 mph.

A cruise ship must maintain some speed in order maintain stability. It will probably travel around 10 knots, depending on sea conditions. The routes and speed are well planned out in order to make it on time to the next port. I imagine you won't be breaking any "records" on your way back.

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I have been on ships during sea days that were not moving at all. How long they sat still, I don't know. I just remember looking overboard and seeing that the ship was not moving. Since we are out to sea, I couldn't tell hour by hour whether we had changed positions or not.
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Most modern cruise ships will consider full speed around 18 - 20 knots. 21 to 23 mph.

A cruise ship must maintain some speed in order maintain stability. It will probably travel around 10 knots, depending on sea conditions. The routes and speed are well planned out in order to make it on time to the next port. I imagine you won't be breaking any "records" on your way back.

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I have been on ships during sea days that were not moving at all. How long they sat still, I don't know. I just remember looking overboard and seeing that the ship was not moving. Since we are out to sea, I couldn't tell hour by hour whether we had changed positions or not.
In all the cruises I have been on I have never been on one that was at a dead stop. . . . interesting

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I have been on ships during sea days that were not moving at all. How long they sat still, I don't know. I just remember looking overboard and seeing that the ship was not moving. Since we are out to sea, I couldn't tell hour by hour whether we had changed positions or not.
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You probably sat for a short period and maintained position. Thrusters will help keep the ship positioned in a very calm sea. Any wave or current action will move even the "largest" vessel and make it unstable and a forward momentum must be maintained. Even if it's only one or two knots. You may not see any bow splash or engine wake but you are moving.

A ship is merely a piece of floating cork compared to the ocean.

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I have been on ships during sea days that were not moving at all. How long they sat still, I don't know. I just remember looking overboard and seeing that the ship was not moving. Since we are out to sea, I couldn't tell hour by hour whether we had changed positions or not.
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You probably sat for a short period and maintained position. Thrusters will help keep the ship positioned in a very calm sea. Any wave or current action will move even the "largest" vessel and make it unstable and a forward momentum must be maintained. Even if it's only one or two knots. You may not see any bow splash or engine wake but you are moving.

A ship is merely a piece of floating cork compared to the ocean.

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Yeah that is what I am thinking. I don't stand around and study the ocean to see if the ship is moving. As I walk the deck, I may look over and I don't see any evidence that we are moving and I don't feel the ship's momentum. Thus, I always assume that the ship was parked in the ocean. However, since the scenery is the same, I have no way of knowing whether the ship is moving, the clouds are moving (if there are clouds) or what.

I concede that the ship will find an area that is nice if possible and move around relatively slowly and calmly.

So, Bill what does the ship do if it doesn't have a distance to travel? Go in circles?
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I've wondered about this myself ever since we were on a 4 day cuise to Mexico. We left port at 4pm and our first stop was Catalina Island. Well we pulled into Catalina around 7 in the morning. Now I have taken a boat to the island for the day before and it was only a 90 min trip. Wish I had my GPS with me to find out where exactly we went for the 15 hrs it took us to get there.
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I know on Carnival there is usually a computerized type map that shows the ships postion, knots and and destination. We walk by it often at sea days to see where we are and how fast at times we are going.
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I know on Carnival there is usually a computerized type map that shows the ships postion, knots and and destination. We walk by it often at sea days to see where we are and how fast at times we are going.
This would also be the neat satellite image I stop to look at and Liz has to drag me away from !!!

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during our trip to Eastern Caribbean, the ship traveled between 5-23 knots. depending on where we were. when we left St. Thomas we traveled at 5 knots for quite some time. my guess is it's such a short distance to Tortola from there, they needed to take their time getting to Tortola.
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I have been on ships during sea days that were not moving at all. How long they sat still, I don't know. I just remember looking overboard and seeing that the ship was not moving. Since we are out to sea, I couldn't tell hour by hour whether we had changed positions or not.
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You probably sat for a short period and maintained position. Thrusters will help keep the ship positioned in a very calm sea. Any wave or current action will move even the "largest" vessel and make it unstable and a forward momentum must be maintained. Even if it's only one or two knots. You may not see any bow splash or engine wake but you are moving.

A ship is merely a piece of floating cork compared to the ocean.

Take care,
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Yeah that is what I am thinking. I don't stand around and study the ocean to see if the ship is moving. As I walk the deck, I may look over and I don't see any evidence that we are moving and I don't feel the ship's momentum. Thus, I always assume that the ship was parked in the ocean. However, since the scenery is the same, I have no way of knowing whether the ship is moving, the clouds are moving (if there are clouds) or what.

I concede that the ship will find an area that is nice if possible and move around relatively slowly and calmly.

So, Bill what does the ship do if it doesn't have a distance to travel? Go in circles?
Hey I have no idea. I don't have a GPS or a hotline to the Captain. I'm not disputing what you say just noting my observations on my cruises.

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Most modern cruise ships will consider full speed around 18 - 20 knots. 21 to 23 mph.

A cruise ship must maintain some speed in order maintain stability. It will probably travel around 10 knots, depending on sea conditions. The routes and speed are well planned out in order to make it on time to the next port. I imagine you won't be breaking any "records" on your way back.

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I have been on ships during sea days that were not moving at all. How long they sat still, I don't know. I just remember looking overboard and seeing that the ship was not moving. Since we are out to sea, I couldn't tell hour by hour whether we had changed positions or not.
In all the cruises I have been on I have never been on one that was at a dead stop. . . . interesting

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I'm with you, Bill - I can not ever remember being at a dead stop except in port.
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I have been on ships during sea days that were not moving at all. How long they sat still, I don't know. I just remember looking overboard and seeing that the ship was not moving. Since we are out to sea, I couldn't tell hour by hour whether we had changed positions or not.
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You probably sat for a short period and maintained position. Thrusters will help keep the ship positioned in a very calm sea. Any wave or current action will move even the "largest" vessel and make it unstable and a forward momentum must be maintained. Even if it's only one or two knots. You may not see any bow splash or engine wake but you are moving.

A ship is merely a piece of floating cork compared to the ocean.

Take care,
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Yeah that is what I am thinking. I don't stand around and study the ocean to see if the ship is moving. As I walk the deck, I may look over and I don't see any evidence that we are moving and I don't feel the ship's momentum. Thus, I always assume that the ship was parked in the ocean. However, since the scenery is the same, I have no way of knowing whether the ship is moving, the clouds are moving (if there are clouds) or what.

I concede that the ship will find an area that is nice if possible and move around relatively slowly and calmly.

So, Bill what does the ship do if it doesn't have a distance to travel? Go in circles?
Hey I have no idea. I don't have a GPS or a hotline to the Captain. I'm not disputing what you say just noting my observations on my cruises.

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Oops, my mistake, I meant to type the name "Mike". He seemed to a better grasp on the way the ship operates. I know you didn't know. I was directing the question to "Mike".

In all honesty, I have no idea what the ship does when out to sea. It has always looked and felt like it was not moving to me. But, I was not never allowed on the bridge to verify this. I am wondering whether they do figure 8's in the water, circles, zigzag or what. It can't possible be moving in a straight line when it is going from San Juan to St. Thomas with a sea day in between. You can travel between the two in a speedboat in under an hour. You can actually see San Juan from many of the V.I. and Miami to Nassau is a nothing hop.

Hence, if the ship has to keep moving, what does it do? As expensive as fuel is, I would imagine the captain is doing as little useless movement as possible.

But, not sure.
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Our first cruise we left Nassau at 2:30 in the afternoon. Disney ship was still in port as was the Glory, and they bothed arrived later than us that morning. As we were sailing during the night I could look out and see 2 ships in the distance. When we docked the next morning. There sat the Disney ship and the Glory. We just couldn 't figure it out. My BF told me later that he thought our ship had just kind of sat still at times during the night. Those other two ships had to hawling butt and us sitting still for them to get there before us. Weird.....
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Hence, if the ship has to keep moving, what does it do? As expensive as fuel is, I would imagine the captain is doing as little useless movement as possible.
The ship will basically "putz" along at a slow pace and will do large circles or semi-circles at very slow speeds. Sea conditions, wind speed and distance will determine how fast they will go if the next port is a short distance away. No matter what you don't go very far in short time at four or five knots.

It actually requires a lot of fuel to start the boat up from a dead stop. It's the old law of physics. Once a body is in motion it tends to stay in motion.

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Any idea where the market place is on that map. How about the Sheraton is?

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Sorry. Can't seem to make any landmarks between the two maps. I looked at map2 and map5 but theres just not enough detail to both to zero in on an exact match.

Some of the 2D interactive maps I have used may help. Microsoft Live.com site is one. Or get the physical street address of the Sheraton and try to find it on map2.

I have been searching for maps of St. Maartin and finally found a few good ones. Even learned Orient Beach is nude. :-)

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