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This from the Carnival web site :

Is there a dress code for the dining room?

Depending on the length of the cruise, either formal dress or casual resort wear is required in the Dining Room. The dress requirement for children is the same. For those not wanting to dress up, the Lido restaurants are open nightly (with the exception of the last evening of the cruise), and have a casual dress code.

Cruise Casual Dining Dress Code: Gentlemen - Sport slacks, khakis, jeans (no cut-offs), dress shorts (long), collared sport shirts; Ladies - Casual dresses, casual skirts or pants and blouses, summer dresses, Capri pants, dress shorts, jeans (no cut-offs). Not permitted in the dining room during the Cruise Casual dinner for ladies and gentlemen: gym shorts, basketball shorts, beach flip-flops, bathing suit attire, cut-off jeans, and sleeveless shirts for men.

Cruise Elegant Dining Dress Code: Gentlemen - Dress slacks, dress shirts. We also suggest a sport coat. If you wish to wear suits and ties or tuxedos, by all means we invite you to do so. Ladies - Cocktail dresses, pantsuits, elegant skirts and blouses; if you‘d like to show off your evening gowns, that's great too! Not permitted in the dining room during the Cruise Elegant dinner for ladies and gentlemen: shorts, T-shirts, beach flip-flops, bathing suit attire, jeans, cut-off jeans, sleeveless shirts for men, sportswear, and baseball hats.


I guess now the question will be, since they didn't enforce the last one, and this one is more relaxed, are you going to be able to go in shorts and ballcaps for dinner soon.

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I should probably note that personally I like an all casual dress code... similar to NCL. We enjoyed packing light, and leaving the formal wear at home.

What I wouldn't want to see is Carnival "float" it any lower - to where their dining rooms are full of shorts, tanktops and ballcaps. Call me an elitist
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All the dress types not allowed under the " new " dress code were already seen in the dining room most of the time anyway. As you said, now that the dress code has been lowered and more relaxed, it will just slip further to finally it will become a " come as you are and as you want " type thing.
I do believe that as the dress and manners of diners slip further and further down the tube, the dining room service will certainly follow suit.
But, I'm sure some will call me an elitist or stuffed shirt too, but hey--- what the heck.
I really have never cared one way or the other about their dress codes--- just believed that they should do away with them completely or enforce them--one or the other. I think now we know where they are headed--- their just doing away with it gradually instead of all at once.
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I love dressing up. I dress up every night and really go all out on formal nights. Dinner is one of my favorite parts of cruising
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I do the same as CutieCat I like to dress up for dinner as I would if I were going to any nice restaurant and really spruce it up for formal night. Makes me feel special.
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Yep, the day is just around the corner when the waiters will be better dressed than the pax.
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Can someone explain to me what are "dress shorts?" Are these bermuda shorts worn with regulation socks, shoes, and jacket? Or, some other type of shorts? What do they mean by long shorts?

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Personally, I am more of a casual dresser. Most formal events I attend, I wear a chef's jaket. But I do feel that dressing up at least a little, makes for a more enjoyable meal, at least in more formal settings, and would not be as much fun sitting next to the Beverly Hillbillies.
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Question - those new rules say "we suggest a sports coat" ... does that mean it's required? Or just desired? Because I don't even OWN a sports coat or a full suit (and I am a pastor!). I do have a lot of nice dress shirts and expensive ties, and I was planning on wearing some nice slacks, dress shirt and a tie for the "formal night". Is that acceptable under the new rules?
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I too love to dress up for tht Formal Nights.

People always feel and maybe act differently when all dressed up and going out for the evening.

It's just 2 nights I don't understand the problem

My brother didn't have a sports jacket for our up coming cruise. He found an absolutly beautiful "NEW" jacket(tags still on) at one of the second hand stores. Very low price...

Don't tell me that some, if not all of you have shopped in one of these stores at least one time

Inis...I agree with you, the waiters will look better than the passangers if this keeps up.

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Ya know.. after re-reading the dress code I realized one thing that is troubling to me.......

It appears that baseball caps are acceptable attire in the dining room on casual nights. The code states they are not acceptable on elegant nights.

Baseball caps in a dining room certainly dums down even any pretense of ambience.

I'm normally a big fan of Carnival, but with this little turn makes me think they are going to bb struggling to fight off what until now was an unfair reference of them sometimes being labelled as the "wal-mart of cruising".
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Baseball caps in Lido and in the dining room for lunch, maybe...not in the dining room for dinner

What ever happened to not wearing a hat/cap inside Inside means inside...not outside on the deck.

My young grandson walked into my house last Sunday with a cap on his head. I told him to take it off, because it was not right to wear a hat inside the house. He took it off...fear is a big part of him listening.....he never knows what I will do



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I'm going on the Destiny in 2 weeks ( 13 April) and will take notes on what I see and report back to this forum for further analysis.
As for me ..."new relaxed" dress codes be darned, I'm packing NICE cloths....coat & tie. I'm not some ignoble provincial, so why would I wish to dress like I'm going to a grunge rock concert ? Please leave the caps, rustic jeans, T-shirts, and flip flops out of the dining rooms of these lovely ships !! Even in the casual buffets, I think I should look presentable and not like your typical burger joint patron.
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YEAH...THOTH

I'm with you on that...all of it

Very well said.

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I'm with you on that...all of it

Very well said.

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Thank YOU Darlene. Like I said..I'm doing MY part in a couple of weeks.
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You are very welcome

I am so happy to read that there are more that like to dress up and go to a nice dinner.

We too will be leaving soon...just not soon enough. May 11---Valor

I have advised all that will be in my group to dress up. How many times can you go on a fantastic vacation like a cruise? This should be a special time and not just a walk to a fast food place

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You are very welcome

I am so happy to read that there are more that like to dress up and go to a nice dinner.

We too will be leaving soon...just not soon enough. May 11---Valor

I have advised all that will be in my group to dress up. How many times can you go on a fantastic vacation like a cruise? This should be a special time and not just a walk to a fast food place

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Ditto here... I'll be on the Victory next Sunday (April 6th)
*******WOOOOOHOOOOOOO************ (I heard thats what the CD says all the time so I'm practicing!!!) and I, too, will report back re: what they allow in the dining room...

BUT, I will tell you that I am travelling with my family of 4, my parents, sister and her 3 kids and 3 friends of my girls AND NONE OF US will be wearing shorts, t-shirts, caps of any kind etc in the dining room....

My own family knows better and the 3 "newbies" were told no pants in the dining room and I'm not telling them any different....

So, call me old fashioned, call me whatever you want, I'm getting dressed up EVERY SINGLE NIGHT for dinner and ESPECIALLY on Captains Dinner and Formal!!!
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Elaine:

ME TOO

I'm not even taking pants(just under)

I have a dress or a skirt for every dinner.

I like the way you think

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men will wear what our wives or girlfriends tell us to wear (or pack) so therefore no man in his right mind will look nothing less then presentable if your DW/GF is looking good on any given night when you go to dinner in the main dining rooms

I like to dress up..I love it when the woman that I am cruising with dresses up ..outside of the Mardi Gras Balls, the only time I get to wear my tux is on a cruise and I look forward to it..I also consider a nice pair of dockers with a knit shirt acceptable for any night but formal night (with shined shoes and matching socks)

outside of undergoing cancer treatment when you lose your hair, why else would someone wear a cap to dinner in the main dining room ?
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I'd say that the new dress code sounds pretty fair overall. You're never going to have a code that pleases everyone. Like most, I say either enforce it or get rid of it. Also agree that the ball caps look like crap in any dining setting, especially a nice dining room like the cruise ships.
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Well here I am reading all this discussion on clothing and am now somewhat confused. We leave on April 7 for our first cruise so I asked my husband to pack a suit as he looks great dressed up. Also for myself, I plan to take a full length evening type dress. My question is do we really need to pack these things??? We both have plenty of casual clothes which would even be okay for somewhat more elegant dining. Personally I find so many people have such different ideas on what is acceptable for these dress codes. Thank you for any help on this.

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We leave on April 7 for our first cruise so I asked my husband to pack a suit as he looks great dressed up. Also for myself, I plan to take a full length evening type dress. My question is do we really need to pack these things???
Nope. You don't need them. But if you want to dress up, by all means, do so.
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I was watching the Carnival promotional DVD and noticed how the people are dressed. Since this portrays the line in an ideal light, perhaps it's a clue as to their expectations on such matters ? The men' shirts had collars with the exceptions of pool area, track, and gym. I saw a great deal of gentlemen in dark coats. My conjecture is that Carnival expects folks to dress up a bit in the evenings , not only for the traditional dining, but the casino, shows, and lounges. On the DVD the men were even wearing button down shirts and trousers in the Lido buffet line.
If one is to read into the Carnival promotional DVD, then rustic jeans, shorts, caps, T-shirts and so on after 6 is most definitely faux pas....even if Carnival doesn't strictly enforce such etiquette.
My guess is that dress codes are the bare minimum of accepted behavior and in no way are to taken as the social norm. For example, just becouse ball caps are not explicitly forbidden, doesn't make them correct.
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Pastor Todd,
I didn't see an answer to your question of whether a sportcoat was required. It is not. And I am one of those who doesn't much care what people wear, so I'm fine with that. I always thought it was a tad silly to take a vacation to tropical isles and have to pack a heavy jacket, suit, tux, ball gown, or whatever. Transatlantic cruise, yes, maybe even European, but to the Caribbean.....not.
Re. the promotional video's, I think that they are still trying to appeal to the people who want the illusion that a cruise is something extravagant. Used to be true, not nowadays!
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To some, a cruise is extravagant. This could be a once in a life time for them. We took my Dad and his wife on a cruise. They both loved it and did get dressed up for the formal nights. He has since passed away, but he would always talk about the fantastic cruise he went on.
I still think the majority still love to get all dressed up for 2 hours.

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I agree-I think a cruise is tons extravagant. I feel like a princess every time I set foot on a ship. Not everyone can afford it-or everyone would. I feel very blessed to be able to go as much as I do.

And again, I love dressing up. I think it's nice to see everyone else dressed up and in the moment as well
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I am likely to go more Elegant Casual this cruise. Instead of a dark suit, I will probably just take a sport coat/slacks outfit. I will wear a tie to dinner and my wife and daughter will certainly wear dresses.

I have nothing against the idea of dressing up - unfortunately, my waist right now does not fit my tuxedo, so that approach is out. Hence, the Elegant Casual.

IMO, as long as you look nice on formal night (no jeans/tee shirts, etc), I am fine with your attire. You paid for the cruise just like I did and have every right to enjoy the cuisine as I do.
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Sometimes a little black dress is all ya need (ok. a great pair of shoes too). Simple yet elegant. There are so few times we get to dress up anymore. I plan on taking a long evening dress on my cruise, it's been a long time since DH has seen me in one .Everything is casual these day's. Don't you just love to see a man in a great suit. That's why they take all those pictures (memories). Bon Voyage.
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I do believe that as the dress and manners of diners slip further and further down the tube, the dining room service will certainly follow suit.


then that would be carnival's fault and not the fault of the way people dress. If the food digresses i just wont cruise them anymore, as my food is as important to me as the ports i visit, but hey i love to eat.


i agree ball caps and beach wear have no place in the dining room, nor any dining room for that matter, but nice jeans are fine. i disagree that shorts should be ok though, they are day wear not night wear. i wish shorts werent part of it, because we will be seeing boohineys hanging out eventually.
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