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Please help---it's less than 2 weeks before we sail and my BFF doesn't have a social security card. Is that needed? It takes 2 weeks for them to process. She's got ID and birth certificate.
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Make sure its a birth certificate with the raised seal, we had a different copy without the official seal and had to get it.

By ID, do you mean a state picture ID? You will need one of these in addition to the birth certificate, no SS card needed.
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Yes, I agree. Make sure it is the correct birth cert. Drivers/non drivers license is best.

Passport would be good also.
That is what we are taking...passport, drivers license. No SS card

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Please help---it's less than 2 weeks before we sail and my BFF doesn't have a social security card. Is that needed? It takes 2 weeks for them to process. She's got ID and birth certificate.
These days, you really don't want to carry your SS card on your person. I'm not sure why people still do but they run a huge risk of ID theft by carrying it or anything with their SSN on it. All someone needs to start stealing your ID Is your DOB &SSN number. I know people who carry not only their SSN card but also all their children's cards as well...Not very bright.
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Please help---it's less than 2 weeks before we sail and my BFF doesn't have a social security card. Is that needed? It takes 2 weeks for them to process. She's got ID and birth certificate.
These days, you really don't want to carry your SS card on your person. I'm not sure why people still do but they run a huge risk of ID theft by carrying it or anything with their SSN on it. All someone needs to start stealing your ID Is your DOB &SSN number. I know people who carry not only their SSN card but also all their children's cards as well...Not very bright.
That is a very good point! It is better not even to take it with you on the cruise.

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That makes sense readytoboard. I feel SOOOOOOOOO much better. We called the travel agent and they told us the same thing, but I was anxious so I wanted to ask you guys since you are all so helpful.
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I haven't had an actual Social Security card since I was eighteen years old. It's at the bottom of Lake Darling. Don't you hate it when you're a teenager and leave your wallet in your cutoffs and decide to go water skiing.

I have never needed it. I know my SS number and for all employment a drivers license and a passport satisfies the I9 regulations for employment. Another reason to have a passport. Proof of residency and proof of citizenship. I had one HR dolt who insisted on this until I told her to read the form.

For a cruise you most certainly don't need it. Get a passport or, if you must, use the county or state issued birth certificate and government issued picture id.

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Under no circumstances would I bring my Social Security card on a cruise.

First its not legally speaking an ID card.

Second the risk of loss and/or ID Theft is to great
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Not sure if our state shas changed it, but for all my driving life, up to several years ago, your ss number was your license number...Of course I knew it, but now I have no idea what my # is...
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Mike, I never had a SS card until recently. It was 1970 and I was living in New Orleans when I had my purse snatched right out of my hands. No one ever asked me to show my ss card all those years. When I moved here to FL and went to get the job I have now I had to apply for a new one.

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Yes she does. We are leaving on Sunday and our paperwork says that it is mandatory to have the Social Security Card.
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Make sure its a birth certificate with the raised seal
I thought that this urban myth was settled months ago. A raised seal on a BC is NOT required.
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I agree with Irish, I have used a photocopy of my BC and an old one at that.
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I have never needed it. I know my SS number and for all employment a drivers license and a passport satisfies the I9 regulations for employment. Another reason to have a passport. Proof of residency and proof of citizenship. I had one HR dolt who insisted on this until I told her to read the form.
Wow, Mike, thanks for this tidbit. I've actually never read the document but, yes, there it is:

Section 1, Employee: This part of the form must be completed at the time of hire, which is the actual beginning of employment. Providing the Social Security number is voluntary, except for employees hired by employers participating in the USCIS Electronic Employment Eligibility Verification Program (E-Verify).
Employers must sign and date the certification. Employees must present original documents. Employers may, but are not required to, photocopy the document(s) presented. These photocopies may only be used for the verification process and must be retained with the Form I-9.
1. Employers CANNOT specify which document(s) they will accept from an employee.

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Yes she does. We are leaving on Sunday and our paperwork says that it is mandatory to have the Social Security Card.
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The birth certificate deal can be a bit tricky. I'm not sure about the whole "raised seal" debate. However, for years I used my hospital birth certificate for everything. In my early 20's, I was applying for a job and was told I would need my "official" birth certificate (the one the county keeps for everyone ever born in the county). I don't know if people are still issued both types these days but at least in my state and in my generation, you actually have 2 certificates and the one you get a copy of through the county clerks office is considered the official one (this one usually has the birth place of both your parents etc on it).
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The birth certificate deal can be a bit tricky. I'm not sure about the whole "raised seal" debate. However, for years I used my hospital birth certificate for everything. In my early 20's, I was applying for a job and was told I would need my "official" birth certificate (the one the county keeps for everyone ever born in the county). I don't know if people are still issued both types these days but at least in my state and in my generation, you actually have 2 certificates and the one you get a copy of through the county clerks office is considered the official one (this one usually has the birth place of both your parents etc on it).
The hospital birth certificates are only to be used for baby books and a family memento. They have never been accepted as an official document.

I believe this is very confusing to most people. It was to my parents and me we tried to get my first passport, when I was fourteen. The documents actually look official but are just pretty paper. The hospital is not a government agency so the government doesn't accept it. However, many states will accept a baptismal record instead of a birth certificate. I find this strange because the church is not a government agency.

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Yes she does. We are leaving on Sunday and our paperwork says that it is mandatory to have the Social Security Card.
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OP not likely to return to answer. First and only post going against all other posts. Driveby.

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