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Old May 13th, 2008, 05:51 PM
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Did anyone see this on Johns blog thingy.....

"However, before I go………………I haven’t commented on the situation that took place on a ship a few weeks ago where the Captain got himself in a bit of a hot water because he requested over the PA system for the German guests to please not reserve the beach chairs on the open deck. Now, I have to be very careful here because I don’t want to get a bollocking from anyone or upset a certain member of the press with whom I am as popular with as pus-filled boil.
However, I see from certain e-mails and messages on the boards that this subject is still being vigorously debated.
The reason I am stirring the pot is that yesterday Carnival Cruise Lines reinforced its no seat saving policy with all onboard management being reminded of the company’s policy and the Cruise Directors empowered to announce these measures at shows and over the PA system as well as in writing in the daily Carnival Capers. The Cruise Directors will stress that if a chair has a shoe, a towel, a book or a small goat on it and it is not occupied after a 30 minute period these items will be removed by ship staff and in the case of the goat taken to the galley and turned into a delicious curry……..this has been a long time coming and we must make sure these rules are enforced."

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i hate this policy when i want to save a chair to get a good spot bet yet i love it when i can't find a chair!
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We just got back from our cruise and it did not seem to be a problem. With all the available lounging/sunning areas available I find it hard to believe a saved chair here and there is a problem. The 30 minute deal could cause more of a problem as far as Im concerned. We at multiple times left our upper deck chairs to go to the Water works area and did not return in the 30 minute time frame and no one was alarmed. I would be extremely upset if I had returned and found my stuff removed while I was enjoying the areas of the ship to cool down. I think if we all remember that we are on vacation and dont stress this stuff, we all should have a great time. But in the same breath I realize that its not a perfect world and we need rules. Lets just hope that discretion is used by staff when removeing items from chairs.

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It's not for the people like you or me, who go into the pool for a bit, go grab a quick bite, that this rule needs to be enforced.

Since I am out early, I see, see all the time, the people who come over, put "something" on several chairs, then disappear for a couple of hrs..This is where the cruise line needs to be the chair police, not the cruisers.

For someone, who's tush never sat in that chair, all morning..off with their heads...<vbg>
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It is actually the immediate area around the Lido/Pool area where the problem is the most. Particularly when there is going to be an event of some kind in the pool area. Also the area just above the pool where a great vantage point for viewing can be had is frequently abused.

I will say that in the case of events in the area the gathering is reasonable short (less than an hour), but some do linger.

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It doesn't seem to be as big a problem as it was in the past. Yes, I do see it happen, but as stated above, it's usually around the main pool, when an event, ie: pool game of some kind, hairy chest contest, etc. is about to happen. I did notice recently on the 'Inspiration" in the new serenity area, that there were a few chairs being "saved", but certainly not for extended periods of time. It seems to me that Carnival is beginning to enforce their rules much better. Not only the "chair" rules, but also the children in the adult hot tub, and pool.

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Just back from the Liberty two weeks ago and we did not have a problem
fining a place to sit at the pool. Guess we got lucky.
But we did see several sits in the sun that had stuff on them and after
a hour and they were not used people were taking them.
I dont think you should be able to hold seats either unless you are
like swimming or going down the slide or grabbing something to eat
and comng right back.
No need to hold chairs for someone that is not planning on spending
time at the pool.
Our ship was full not a open room left and everyone was fair with
chairs.
We only had to real full sea days so maybe that helped.
The thing I hate most other than chair hogs is people letting their kids
use the hot tubs like a pool.

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Looking forward to the curry in the dinning room
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I tend to stay out of the sun anyways...
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The thing I hate most other than chair hogs is people letting their kids
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I am with you on this one. We really enjoy a peaceful soak and having children jumping in and out of the pool was so unenjoyable. First of all, it is really not safe: children have less body mass and thinner skin so are more sensitive to the temperature. Second, it is clearly stated this is an adult activity mainly because adults don't jump in and out, scream, splash etc. Third, there are plenty of children-friendly activities on the ship.
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The thing I hate most other than chair hogs is people letting their kids
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I am with you on this one. We really enjoy a peaceful soak and having children jumping in and out of the pool was so unenjoyable. First of all, it is really not safe: children have less body mass and thinner skin so are more sensitive to the temperature. Second, it is clearly stated this is an adult activity mainly because adults don't jump in and out, scream, splash etc. Third, there are plenty of children-friendly activities on the ship.
or let kids like my 11 yr old who soaked much too long with some other kids (not at the adult hot tub mind you but the one at the main pool for everyone), 2 days into it he got the "down under"chafing of a life time, poor kid slept with his legs spread all week, baby powder etc. waddled for a couple of days too.

he wont be a big hot tub enthusiast next time

I agree tho, the kids who use the adult hot tubs, should be taught to read the rules and obey them.

and i love the rule on the chair saving, however, i doubt it will be 30 minutes even if that IS the rule, i'm betting it'll be atleast an hour before stuff gets moved. I hated the deck on the conquest last september, days at sea were like a day in a sea of people swarming the decks and no chairs to be found. I finally found one on the top of the deck way in the back. I'm sure i'd bet my savings on at least 30-40% of the chairs having no occupants for well over 30 minutes. Including the several around me at the time.
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Ok guys I am NOT a chair saver and I would rather take a flogging than roast in the sun like a lobster, BUT where should we put our highly coveted Carnival beach towels, that we will be charged $20 or $25 if we lose them?Generally we find a chair in the shade (not a lounge) and just pile our stuff on it. and go play on the waterslide or in the pool. I sure don't want to upset anyone or inconvenience someone, but I know if I put my towel on the deck, it will be picked up and gone forever....
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As someone said in a pervious post somewhere on these boards it might be worthwhile to bring a couple of cheap beach towels from Wal -Mart or the like instead of risking the loss of a $20+ carnival towel.
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As someone said in a pervious post somewhere on these boards it might be worthwhile to bring a couple of cheap beach towels from Wal -Mart or the like instead of risking the loss of a $20+ carnival towel.

yeah i'm a naughty girl...i dont take that big giant towel. A. its rediculous to carry on excursions B. i'm scared it will get taken on the deck. I tend to take a small plain bath towel. I know...i'm a sinner

the walmart towel is a good idea tho, maybe we'll do that and just leave them behind later, cuz they will be gross after a week im sure!
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just write a note and leave it on your chair explaining when youll be back in a few.
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I am the one, though probably not the only one, who posted about taking an inexpensive Wal-mart towel along instead of using the Carnival ones. I bought several that were about $4 each a few years ago. They were rolled up tightly and easy to pack the first time. I keep them with my cruise gear and luggage and have used them several times. Well, they were finally lost on my last cruise when the G-kids were using them and left them on deck, so I was out $8 - not $40-$60 that Carnival would have charged.

When I got home, I went to the dollar store and found some more for $3 each and put them away for cruises.

Not just saving money on this, but those big towels are HEAVY when wet and I don't want to be carrying them around port with me.
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There are always less populated spots on teh ship to find a lounge chair...some don't even require you to wear your top ;-)
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I really wouldn't have a problem moving someone's stuff to another chair if I noticed that the chair had been empty for quite some time. The hogs could just as easily move down a few and do the same thing.

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i brig a bunch a fake dog doo and rubber roachs and place them on the hogs chair ... its a blast
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i brig a bunch a fake dog doo and rubber roachs and place them on the hogs chair ... its a blast
OK....I LOVE this !!!

Of course then we will hear that all Carnival ships have roaches and dogs on them !!!

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Sounds like a great place to use that fake vomit we have had for the past 20 yrs. I mean to save the chair for yourself. Doubt anyone would take your chair with that in the middle.
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The people saving deck chairs must be the same people who are saving seats in the show lounge. Even though it specifically states in the Capers, "we kindly ask that you do not save seats"....people have saved entire rows for family/friends that do not appear until a few minutes prior to showtime and oftentimes, never appear. I have witnessed many instances where people have almost come to blows with the "seat savers".
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The people saving deck chairs must be the same people who are saving seats in the show lounge. Even though it specifically states in the Capers, "we kindly ask that you do not save seats"....people have saved entire rows for family/friends that do not appear until a few minutes prior to showtime and oftentimes, never appear. I have witnessed many instances where people have almost come to blows with the "seat savers".
Yes ! This is another area we think needs to be addressed. Maybe put a little light on the rails and when someone encounters a "saver" the person simply flips on the light and an attendant can come over and explain the policy to the saver.

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Well, I don't mind moving items from deck chairs. As a matter of fact, we can practice this on the Blog2NOLA group cruise. We MAY start a trend!

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As someone said in a pervious post somewhere on these boards it might be worthwhile to bring a couple of cheap beach towels from Wal -Mart or the like instead of risking the loss of a $20+ carnival towel.
I just bought two beach towels in Target. They are nice, medium blue with nautical knots.
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I've never really had a problem seeing that, however this last cruise my hubby and me took the Victory for our honeymoon 7 years later and it was Spring Break and we would come up really early and there would be one kid asleep on a lounge chair and then a hundred chairs saved with a book, flipflop, towel and whatever else for hours. You wouldn't see anyone. They just picked a person to get up early and grab all the chairs. Then around 2pm or so they would start filling them up. We threw peoples stuff off a couple times. Nobody enforced it on our cruise
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I find it hard to believe they are going to monitor empty chairs for 30 mins ..... they won't have a clue how long that chair has been empty.
Maybe if its been vacant except for the 'saving shoe' for a few hours...

good luck on this one.
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simple answer but a pain nonetheless is to reserve or sign out a chair or two using your sail and sign card.. you get a fixed time limit and you are charged if you dont return on time.. its an idea that would never happen but when you see chairs on deck then you know they have been "rented" so you have to go get your own... problem solved..(as long as there are enough to go around)..
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