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Old October 10th, 2008, 04:58 PM
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Carnival has announced that effective October 31, 2008, the existing fuel supplement will be eliminated for all new bookings on 2010 departures. At that same time, a price increase on 2010 sailings will become effective. Additionally, we have established specific guidelines under which the current fuel supplement may be reimbursed to our guests for 2008 and 2009 voyages.

For 2008 and 2009 departures, if the price of light sweet crude oil according to the NYMEX (New York Mercantile Exchange Index) is $70 per barrel or less at the 2:30 p.m. close of business as reported by Reuters on each of the 25 consecutive trading days ending five trading days prior to the guest's cruise departure date, the fuel supplement will be refunded in the form of a shipboard credit. Guests who book a 2010 cruise prior to October 31, 2008, will be charged the current fuel supplement but will also be eligible for a refund of the fuel supplement in accordance with the same fuel price conditions that are being implemented for the 2008 and 2009 departures. Within the next few weeks, we will provide the daily NYMEX fuel price information at Carnival.com.

Carnival is implementing these initiatives due to the recent trends in declining fuel prices in an effort to migrate away from charging a separate fuel supplement. If fuel prices stabilize below $70 per barrel, we will be able to effectively eliminate the fuel supplement. However, there is still a risk that fuel prices could move higher which would require us to maintain or reinstate a fuel supplement but we are hopeful that the goal of eliminating the fuel supplement can be achieved. These industry-leading initiatives demonstrate our commitment to our guests and travel agents to make Carnival the most attractive cruise vacation available.

The fuel supplement is currently $9 per person per day for the first and second guest (not to exceed $126 per person per voyage) and $4 per person per day for third, fourth and fifth guests (not to exceed $56 per person per voyage).
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That is great. Other cruise lines like Royal Caribbean, NCL and others will probably follow.
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But, the fuel surcharge is still there in the form of a price increase.
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I do agree with you Michael....
If you noticed recently the prices of the cruises on Carnival are going up. And so are some of the other cruiselines.
My cruise in Nov. on RCCL has gone up 300.00....I am glad I booked that cruise last year, and doing so I avoided having to pay the fuel charges.
In my opinion if they had to charge us for the fuel charges they should have just increased the basic rate of the cruise and we would have not even noticed it was a fuel charge.
Last year we had received a letter from the head of the cruiselines that we would be reimbursed 25.00 because they found out they overcharged everyone for port charges....We were supposed to get the checks by May of this past year....well no checks...so now when they say something like they will reimburse us even for fuel charges, I will believe it when I see it.
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Let's see. If oil stays at $69 for 24 days before our 2009 cruise and on the 25th day it goes to $71 then the surcharge remains?
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so, if by some miracle we are eligible for the fuel charge refund, is it going to be done automatically? Or do I have to try and calculate and keep track each day of the cost of oil?


I can't complain, we booked our cruise knowing that we would have to pay it, so if we get it refunded...even better. 8)
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The price of fuel will increase from the current rate of $80 very soon according to some sources. I wouldnt count on any refunding of the surcharge.

How lame is it to announce the fuel surcharge will be eliminated for 2010 but in the same announcement tell us the basic fares are increasing? Do they think we are stupid? They should have waited a month or two to tell the world about raising the rates. Now the fuel charge is just going to be a different entry on the revenue reports. Bottom line.. they just renamed it!
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The price of fuel will increase from the current rate of $80 very soon according to some sources. I wouldnt count on any refunding of the surcharge.

How lame is it to announce the fuel surcharge will be eliminated for 2010 but in the same announcement tell us the basic fares are increasing? Do they think we are stupid? They should have waited a month or two to tell the world about raising the rates. Now the fuel charge is just going to be a different entry on the revenue reports. Bottom line.. they just renamed it!
Who wouldn't expect the price of a cruise to increase 2 years from now, what doesn't increase over time.

However, I always said, I'd prefer just to list the REAL price of the cruise, not the price then a 9.00 per day surcharge. At least I know the real price when I'm comparing, afterall, they could advertise a 7 day cruise for 99.00 then say there is a 40.00 a day surcharge.

So, in the end, no surcharge and just the real price of the cruise!
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Let's see. If oil stays at $69 for 24 days before our 2009 cruise and on the 25th day it goes to $71 then the surcharge remains?
No, it has to stay below 70.00 for 25 days straight up to 5 days befor, but yes, it really is a marketing ploy, because if it goes to 70.01 1 day out of 25, we are screwed. Don't count on it, and they knowy it!

They need to reduce the surcharge to 5.00 for all current cruises
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The price of fuel will increase from the current rate of $80 very soon according to some sources. I wouldnt count on any refunding of the surcharge.

How lame is it to announce the fuel surcharge will be eliminated for 2010 but in the same announcement tell us the basic fares are increasing? Do they think we are stupid? They should have waited a month or two to tell the world about raising the rates. Now the fuel charge is just going to be a different entry on the revenue reports. Bottom line.. they just renamed it!
Who wouldn't expect the price of a cruise to increase 2 years from now, what doesn't increase over time.

However, I always said, I'd prefer just to list the REAL price of the cruise, not the price then a 9.00 per day surcharge. At least I know the real price when I'm comparing, afterall, they could advertise a 7 day cruise for 99.00 then say there is a 40.00 a day surcharge.

So, in the end, no surcharge and just the real price of the cruise!

Cruising has gotten less expensive the last several years not more so the point of announcing that the are raising the rates a year and a half is a stupid marketing decision. And again whoever suggested that cutting the fuel fees to coincide with a price increase should be fired. I agree that $5.00 fee per day starting now would be fair and should be done in the name of customer service.
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