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Old May 2nd, 2009, 05:25 PM
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Neighbors of mine were recently in Cozumel with us and their son and gf went for a scooter ride and the police pulled them over and claimed they were speeding and wanted money or come back to the police station. They refused both their requests and then the police asked for $10 dollars for each officer. They refused to pay them that and the police just turned around and left. Just a warning when Mexico opens back up.


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There are a lot of corrupt police in Mexico. My uncle once told me that if they stop you, you put your licence up to the window and tell them to give you a ticket. You never get out of the car. Never open the window. And if you feel unsafe, you drive to the police station. Generally they will leave you alone when they realize it isn't easy money.
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I recall being in Cozumel and two of the ladies at our tables had gone to the ruins. They were told by their guides that it is illegal to fish in many parts of Mexico. The military/police will apply the law, but they are the worst offenders because no one is going to shoot a cop or military personnel.

They will prey on us whenever and where ever they can. That is one reason I do not like Mexico.
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This is nothing new. If we have corruption here in the States why is it such a suprise to find it any where else. Just be careful and use common sense when traveling.
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What--you mean there's corruption somewhere in the world besides the good ol' U.S.??
What about the members of our congress that's been under investigation and in jail in the last few years? What about the recent scandal involving the Gov. of Illinois ? If we wanted to talk corruption we could fill volumes from our own officials here at home. We needn't worry too much about a tourist trap in a touristy spot--we need to worry about our " public servants " at home.
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Are there Three honest Cop's in mexico that havent been killed yet.
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This is nothing new. If we have corruption here in the States why is it such a suprise to find it any where else. Just be careful and use common sense when traveling.
Same thing happened to my mom driving through Texas. They stopped her for speeding, saw the California plates, and refused to let her leave until they got all her cash. She hates Texas because of this experience. Texas people don't get mad at me. I have nothing aganist Texas I wasn't in the car, my crazysis was. My mom had to drive from Texas to California with no money and no credit cards (she didn't have any credit cards at the time).
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Well, to be somewhat fair to Texas the same thing happened to me, but I was speeding, somewhere around Midland. They insisted on me driving directly to the judge where I has heard and fined on the spot (this was back in 1980).

The judge said my fine was $100. I said I didn't have that much cash. He said "how much do you have?"

Back in those days we didnt have ATMs on every corner. I said I had about $60 and would need some of it for gas to get to Dallas. We did the calculations and he took all the cash he could get from me.
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Heck--I bet there was corruption in Mayberry when Andy was sheriff if we just knew about it !!
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But, we are much more of a potential target in Mexico, or any less prosperous country. They see us as wealthy, which we are compared to most of them, and they will try all kinds of things to get some of our $. Cabo used to target jaywalkers!
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Being Canadian, we are used to the NY State cops sitting near the border for "easy money" because they know that most Canadians won't easily be able to contest the tickets and NY state has a reciprocal agreement with Quebec for collecting the tickets. They target Quebec and Vermont plates.

The same is true in Florida where people have Quebec plates. The absolute worst place was this little strip between Hallandale and North Miami Beach called Golden Beach. They have a seriously silly speed limit and a big speed trap. They also didn't build sidewalks, so you can't walk through town. Legally in Florida all beaches are public, so how do you get there if there is no sidewalk and no parking?
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We sailed out of NEWY York a few years ago and the porters on the pier demanded $10. a bag or "you man never see your bags again." we reported this to the "BOSS'"HE SAID **** happens, and what do you want me to do. We will never go out of NY again even if it is FREE
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We sailed out of NEWY York a few years ago and the porters on the pier demanded $10. a bag or "you man never see your bags again." we reported this to the "BOSS'"HE SAID **** happens, and what do you want me to do. We will never go out of NY again even if it is FREE
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This is where you pick up your mobile phone, make like you are taking his picture and ask if he would like to repeat it for all of youtube to see tonight on the web, if I should just email it to the NYPD so the can deal with the extortion or to the IRS for all the undeclared income.
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I've heard similar stories from friends that lived in Mexico - scary.
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Doesn't sound good for New York or Cozumel, does it?
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But, we are much more of a potential target in Mexico, or any less prosperous country. They see us as wealthy, which we are compared to most of them, and they will try all kinds of things to get some of our $. Cabo used to target jaywalkers!
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There's that American arrogance that gets us into sooooooo much trouble around the world. There is corruption in all forms of government in all countries including the good old USA. When traveling just use common sense and try to stay out of trouble. Of course sometimes trouble finds you no matter what you do.

I would never miss visiting a country because of what I've heard second hand or judge a whole country by one incident. To each his own.
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I have never avoided a country because of potential problems. But, I also don't walk through bad neighborhoods in the US at night either. I really don't think it is arrogant to be realistic about not being a crime target. If you don't know that we are "rich" by the standards of most 3rd world countries, then you haven't explored them very much. I do NOT comsider myself rich by US standards, but cruising has taught me a lot about the world, including the fact that most people in the ports we visit could never afford to even take a cruise.
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Doesn't sound good for New York or Cozumel, does it?
That is odd that you forgot Texas. My mom and crazysis drove to Florida from California and back. Both ways they got "stopped" and made to pay the ticket before leaving Texas. On the way back to California Texas police took all their money so they couldn't eat anything until they got back to California. They called me collect to ask me to make a big pot of spaghetti because they were so hungry. When driving from Florida to California it's hard to avoid Texas it's kind of big.

BTW this happened around 1986 so things could have changed in 23 years. Has it been that long?
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ok let me defend Texas law enforcement........ok back in the day there were no agreements between Texas, and California nor many other states in the union to collect traffic fines from non citizens of Texas, therefore you would have to pay the fine at that time or go to the nearest magistrate to pay the fine before leaving Texas. This procedure was mostly practiced by State Troopers, or small town police rather than larger Municipal police departments. This practice has been eliminated since there is now a written agreement among states.
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