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Old May 8th, 2009, 03:06 PM
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Um, fecal matter is hardly free of bacteria. In fact, it is loaded with it. But, I think we are going overboard even worrying about this. Carnival has set up some special rules for this particular group cruise and, basically, it is more of matter of who is in which cabin than anything else. I mean, it's not like noone ever has sex while on a cruise!
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In fact, our digestive tracts have a small amount of e. coli naturally to aid digestion. It is too much that causes one to get ill. And Marty is right. If you are worried about people having sex on board, honeymooners shouldn't be allowed on board either by virtue of that.
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Um, fecal matter is hardly free of bacteria. In fact, it is loaded with it. But, I think we are going overboard even worrying about this. Carnival has set up some special rules for this particular group cruise
And we all know how well the public listens to rules .. especially the rule about bringing alcohol on board
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Old May 8th, 2009, 03:25 PM
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My point is simple.. I don't think I would feel comfortable cruising so quickly after a charter of this type... now, if I didn't know about it the charter.. how could it bother me???? .. but knowing.... I would have major reservations.. once again ..JMO
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Um, fecal matter is hardly free of bacteria. In fact, it is loaded with it. Marty
My mistake, you are correct, the article I read said that in comparison to bacteria in the mouth and salivia, fecal matter is relatively bacteria free. Urine is sterile, free of bacteria when it leaves the body

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Urine may be pathogenically sterile, but is still full of toxins such as ammonia.
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I don't think most of us are denying these people their "alternate lifestyle" though most of us also do not want to participate in a cruise with them. There are many theme cruises that each of us might seek to avoid. That is why they are theme cruises and focus on a particular grouping.

I think the cruise lines probably evaluate special requests and would have to determine whether the interested group need to charter the entire ship or now. For instance the "knitting cruise" is not likely to offend anybody, but a group requesting no alcohol sales would tick a lot of people off. Groups wanting to replace the cruise line entertainment with their own (a particular style of music) might be walking a fine line as well.
There was actually a christian Mothers and Daughters cruise (the Celebration out of Jacksonville, if I remember correctly) where they booked the entire ship and had the casino closed the entire cruise and had no alcohol for sale the entire cruise either.

I can't imagine how much extra they would have had to pony up, to make that booking worth Carnival's while.

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I don't think most of us are denying these people their "alternate lifestyle" though most of us also do not want to participate in a cruise with them. There are many theme cruises that each of us might seek to avoid. That is why they are theme cruises and focus on a particular grouping.

I think the cruise lines probably evaluate special requests and would have to determine whether the interested group need to charter the entire ship or now. For instance the "knitting cruise" is not likely to offend anybody, but a group requesting no alcohol sales would tick a lot of people off. Groups wanting to replace the cruise line entertainment with their own (a particular style of music) might be walking a fine line as well.
There was actually a christian Mothers and Daughters cruise (the Celebration out of Jacksonville, if I remember correctly) where they booked the entire ship and had the casino closed the entire cruise and had no alcohol for sale the entire cruise either.

I can't imagine how much extra they would have had to pony up, to make that booking worth Carnival's while.

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Yes the cruiseline could charge more ...

I guess the bar staff did other duties.. i can't see them getting a week off..
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When there is a full ship charter and they do not need the bars and casinos open, that staff gets a vacation.
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When there is a full ship charter and they do not need the bars and casinos open, that staff gets a vacation.
did not know that ..is that with or without pay?
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I am unsure as to whether it is with or without pay.
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The dining rooms they are required to be clothed in according to what the article said. The lounges however are a free for all.
I believe this is the same policy that Dave the Wave has on the Minnow. 8)[/quote]

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Joey,
I really think that breaking the rules re. bringing alcohol on board is not in the same category as these rules. A LOT harder to hide an orgy in the hallways!
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Good point. Talk about your opportunity to make homegrown p**n. I honestly think security will make sure these rules get followed.
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I really think that breaking the rules re. bringing alcohol on board is not in the same category as these rules. A LOT harder to hide an orgy in the hallways!
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My point is people who break rules do so.. regardless of what rule is...If they think they "can get by " with it..
Those are the people that must feel they are above everyone else..that THOSE rules don't apply to ME
Right is right wrong is wrong..ther is no confusing the two..

So if these "swingers" decided that rules didn't matter..and thought they could get by with sex in the jacuzzi regardless of the rules..there will be sex in the jacuzzi..

Rules are instituted for reasons... whether or not we agree with them.. but by agreeing to travel with the cruise line or chartering a cruise ship we should abide by their rules..

I hope that those same people are not used to going to other peoples homes and doing as they feel.. even though they know their hosts would rather they didn't...

Case in point a whole thread on the techniques to "sneak" alcohol on board!
http://www.cruisemates.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=608271
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Rules like these are understandable, but there are some rules(hence laws) that serve no purpose but an unethical and immoral ones. Things are not always going to black and white but in this case the rules are extremely reasonable.
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Joey,
My reply to you was rather tongue in cheek. I do believe in following the rules and, even when I don't see the point, I realize that there may simply be something I don't understand. I am SO not a swinger nor a rebel. Just don't care a lot about what other people do....in private!
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When things are black and white is when things are easiest. Those are the times when you simply have to make a decision. The times when things are shades of gray are the hard decisions in life, and those times come more often than not.
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Old May 9th, 2009, 03:37 PM
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Colorcrazie sorry i didn't realize but thank you.. for saying so..and Brad thanks also for a good conversation..

People will be People .. And People are born Flawed....some will be dishonest..most i think will do the right thing..it's been that way almost from day 0 after the Cain and Able incident.. all an individual can do is be true to who they are..

Once again thanks for the conversation.. good thread!
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NEWS FLASH!!!

I just read where Carnival is hosting an Elvis Cruise. Some of his former friends and bandmates are taking over the ship for all of the kings fans.

Can you just imagine? PB&J in the jaccuzzi, All that hair gel in the linens. I would not want to go on the next cruise after this one.
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So has there been any updates since this cruise?
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