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Default Carnival to discontinue Paper Documents late August

Dear Travel Agent Partners,



We just wanted to take this opportunity to update you on some important information regarding cruise documents.



Based on the popularity of Carnival’s electronic documents, beginning with cruise departures of August 25, 2009 and beyond, Carnival will discontinue the paper version of the cruise travel documents. All guests on sailings from this date forward will need to use Carnival’s MyDocuments portal to print electronic cruise documents.

Since the vast majority of our guests already use the electronic system, we are expecting a smooth transition. As an added convenience for your guests you may print the electronic cruise documents for them at anytime once the booking is paid in full by simply going to the MyDocuments portal (accessible at www.carnival.com/mydocuments). This feature will also provides guests with on-demand access to their Carnival booking, enabling them to print boarding passes, the terms and conditions of the cruise ticket contract, luggage tags, and other pertinent information regarding their "Fun Ship" cruise from any Internet-connected computer.



This "paperless" system provides guests with many conveniences and offers the same travel documentation and information typically available with traditional cruise documents. Housed within a secure, easy-to-navigate Internet portal accessible on a "24/7" basis, the electronic document system operates in "real time" which ensures that all last-minute changes are reflected. In addition to the peace-of-mind created by eliminating the wait for cruise documents to be delivered by mail, this initiative has a positive impact on the environment. Please be advised that the migration to an entirely eDocument format applies to both individual and group reservations.

Additional details are below:


* August 3 is the last day that paper documents can be ordered for sailings prior to August 25, 2009.
* Cruise documents, which include the terms and conditions of the cruise ticket contract, may be accessed online after full payment is received and will require the following information; booking number, last name of the guest, ship and sail date.
* The current terms and conditions of the cruise ticket contract can be viewed at all times at www.carnival.com.
* Guests who purchased FlyAweigh air/sea packages may view their air schedules within 75 days of their cruise departure date.
* Although having printed e-documents will expedite the check-in process during embarkation, guests may check in at the pier without documents as their information is contained within Carnival’s reservation system.
* Electronic documents include printable luggage tags that may be printed in black and white. If they are not printed, luggage tags are available at the pier.


This change will provide a more efficient way for our guests to prepare for their cruise
vacation and help us continue our efforts to be more environmentally friendly.

We appreciate your business and support of this new initiative.
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Years ago I would have been kicking and screaming, saying, I want my docs.. but now I say, yayay......
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No big deal. Wonder why they did not do it long ago. Have to disagree with the statement below.

* Although having printed e-documents will expedite the check-in process during embarkation, guests may check in at the pier without documents as their information is contained within Carnival’s reservation system.

Try explaining this to the private security people who want to see your edocs or Fun Pass before they will even let you in the cruise terminal to talk to Carnival Reservations.
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Try explaining this to the private security people who want to see your edocs or Fun Pass before they will even let you in the cruise terminal to talk to Carnival Reservations.
Good point, but I'd hope that they'll have a manifest of passengers, and by showing proper I.D. (ie: passport etc.) that you'll be allowed to pass. You're certainly correct as of right now. Ain't no way you'd get past the "door guards" currently.

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No more doc dance. I myself prefer the paper docs. Guess I am a dinosaur.
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No more doc dance. I myself prefer the paper docs. Guess I am a dinosaur.
We can still "doc dance" when we print them off.
That said, this is another way to deal the travel agency out and what about those who don't have computers?
The world ASSUMES that everyone has a home computer ! That's not true.
It would seem that travel agencies and those not computer literate can benefit each other, in that those without a computer would be necessity book through a travel agent.
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Thoth;

We have a travel business and got the same e-mail from Carnival.
There is one part of the e-doc's that I like and that is not having to worry when we mailed the old documents out to our clients not living near us.
I always worried that they would get lost in the mail which NEVER really
happened so I didn't need to worry anyway.

We still have a strong connection to the cruise lines and our "reps" are very helpful, even to a small business like us. You are right that not all people have a computer or a computer w/a printer. We have elderly clients that we hand deliver travel documents to. As far as Kelli and I we are ok w/E-doc's. Guess you can still do that "doc dance".

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Well this is a shame, my parents don't have the internet so I guess they can no longer cruise on Carnival. I'm not kidding. If the cruise line wanted to limit the amount of people on board the ship this will help them achieve thier goal. This is a bad idea. :evil:
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Bummer. My doc dance keeps getting interrupted by paper jams.
Katlady, can't your parents have someone else print them out...say, you maybe....and then mail then to them?
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Well this is a shame, my parents don't have the internet so I guess they can no longer cruise on Carnival. I'm not kidding. If the cruise line wanted to limit the amount of people on board the ship this will help them achieve thier goal. This is a bad idea. :evil:
How is this a bad idea?

If your parent's don't have the internet, they are not booking their trip themselves anyway.
They would have to book with a travel agent, who would then have to print their documents for them.

I would imagine that Carnival knows that the people who do not have internet, left in this country, generally are not looking for a cruise vacation.
I know here in SC, according to the newspaper, last week, 40% of the state, still does not have internet. (7th worst in the country)
Of course, of that 40%, over half, live WAY out in the country and still don't have air conditioning, indoor plumbing, etc....(sadly, I have met far too many family members on my Wife's side, here and in NC that seriously, do NOT have AC and full electricity yet)

This move is LONG overdue and will not negatively impact Carnival bookings in the least.

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Well this is a shame, my parents don't have the internet so I guess they can no longer cruise on Carnival. I'm not kidding. If the cruise line wanted to limit the amount of people on board the ship this will help them achieve thier goal. This is a bad idea. :evil:
How is this a bad idea?

If your parent's don't have the internet, they are not booking their trip themselves anyway.
They would have to book with a travel agent, who would then have to print their documents for them.

I would imagine that Carnival knows that the people who do not have internet, left in this country, generally are not looking for a cruise vacation.
I know here in SC, according to the newspaper, last week, 40% of the state, still does not have internet. (7th worst in the country)
Of course, of that 40%, over half, live WAY out in the country and still don't have air conditioning, indoor plumbing, etc....(sadly, I have met far too many family members on my Wife's side, here and in NC that seriously, do NOT have AC and full electricity yet)

This move is LONG overdue and will not negatively impact Carnival bookings in the least.

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Katlady, can't your parents have someone else print them out...say, you maybe....and then mail then to them?
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Why do you think I'm so mad. I'm going to be the one using my printer ink to print their cruise document.

Bguppies they can book a cruise over the telephone, but my mom will want paper documents.

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I don't agree with this. My parents don't have the internet because they don't trust or want it. They love to cruise and have gone to Alaska, across the Atlantic Ocean, and the Mexican Riveria. Each time they received paper documents, because the cruise line saw they didn't have an e-mail address. My parents live in town with an AC, plumbing, and a very nice pool for hot days. They aren't broke they could afford internet service, but chose not to have it. Shoot my mom is still mad about day light savings time, she will never get over this.
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Many in the older generations never learned the computer logic. There is a certain thought pattern required to operate a computer.
My parents for example can't "think that way".
That said....I consider myself pretty dumb on this high tech gadgetry myself. Dial up Internet, land-line telephone, no I-pods, no IMP-3's, and blackberry continues to be a fruit.
At least I can find Cruisemates and Carnival online !!
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After twentysomething cruises I'm in favor of it. On the first few cruises I read through everything but after a few cruises most of the "documents" went into the circular file.

I like that Carnival puts the documents in PDF format so you can just print the pages you need and forget about the rest.

The only thing that is a bit of pain is folding and pseudo-laminating the luggage tags. I just put clear packing tape over them and punch a hole in them and attach them with a cable tie.

Travel Agents should print and ship the documents for those who aren't computer savvy.

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Many in the older generations never learned the computer logic. There is a certain thought pattern required to operate a computer.
My parents for example can't "think that way".
That said....I consider myself pretty dumb on this high tech gadgetry myself. Dial up Internet, land-line telephone, no I-pods, no IMP-3's, and blackberry continues to be a fruit.
At least I can find Cruisemates and Carnival online !!
Gee I thought I knew about high tech gadgetry but I have never heard of a IMP-3's. What is that?
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Public Libraries usually have computers for the public to use for free. Usually there is a nominal fee to print documents it is usually .10 a page.

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Well said Mike M.

Totally agree...!

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[ Gee I thought I knew about high tech gadgetry but I have never heard of a IMP-3's. What is that?
I don't know....hey I TOLD you I didn't know anything.
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I just finished paying off my cruise for August 23rd. I'll be sailing with my children to the Bahamas and I'm really excited as I plan to spend a couple of days at the Magic Kingdom. I booked through another travel website, and I asked the rep when I was receiving the docs. She told me Carnival would be emailing me my docs three weeks prior to sailing. I asked her if this was something new and she said yes. Carnival no longer mails the documents to your home.

I read on an earlier post that starting on the 25th of August, all docs will be issued electronically, but our trip is on the 23rd, and ours will be electronically. I really don't care if they're mailed to me, or emailed, I will still be doing the doc dance, even if my printer jams up!!!!

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[ Gee I thought I knew about high tech gadgetry but I have never heard of a IMP-3's. What is that?
I don't know....hey I TOLD you I didn't know anything.
They are inventing so many things that I don't own. I just thought it was something new. I get older and the screens get smaller. How am I suppose to read!!!! Plus I kept losing my tiny cell phone in my purse I ended up having to get a smalller purse.
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I was able to go online and view my docs. I didn't print them out because I still need to get my daughter's passport, but if I want, I'm actually able to print out the docs as they're in pdf format.
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[ Gee I thought I knew about high tech gadgetry but I have never heard of a IMP-3's. What is that?
I don't know....hey I TOLD you I didn't know anything.
They are inventing so many things that I don't own. I just thought it was something new. I get older and the screens get smaller. How am I suppose to read!!!! Plus I kept losing my tiny cell phone in my purse I ended up having to get a smalller purse.
I was being facetious... No IMP-3 players that I know of.
They do seem to come up with all this stuff. We all need a personal teenage assistant to work it for us.
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[ Gee I thought I knew about high tech gadgetry but I have never heard of a IMP-3's. What is that?
I don't know....hey I TOLD you I didn't know anything.
They are inventing so many things that I don't own. I just thought it was something new. I get older and the screens get smaller. How am I suppose to read!!!! Plus I kept losing my tiny cell phone in my purse I ended up having to get a smalller purse.
I was being facetious... No IMP-3 players that I know of.
They do seem to come up with all this stuff. We all need a personal teenage assistant to work it for us.
My 10 year old nephew is a whiz at all the tech stuff. I think it helps that he grow up with it. For us 8 track players and pong for atari 2600 were huge deals. It's amazing the things that have been invented in my lifetime.
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Now if only Carnival could go to some type of electronic picture system... Now that would REALLY help the planet.
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[ Gee I thought I knew about high tech gadgetry but I have never heard of a IMP-3's. What is that?
I don't know....hey I TOLD you I didn't know anything.
They are inventing so many things that I don't own. I just thought it was something new. I get older and the screens get smaller. How am I suppose to read!!!! Plus I kept losing my tiny cell phone in my purse I ended up having to get a smalller purse.
I was being facetious... No IMP-3 players that I know of.
They do seem to come up with all this stuff. We all need a personal teenage assistant to work it for us.
My 10 year old nephew is a whiz at all the tech stuff. I think it helps that he grow up with it. For us 8 track players and pong for atari 2600 were huge deals. It's amazing the things that have been invented in my lifetime.
And to think I was proud of my 80's technology. No joke I still play on an original Gameboy...the pre-colorized. Younger people compliment me "WOW a genuine antique video game".
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[ Gee I thought I knew about high tech gadgetry but I have never heard of a IMP-3's. What is that?
I don't know....hey I TOLD you I didn't know anything.
They are inventing so many things that I don't own. I just thought it was something new. I get older and the screens get smaller. How am I suppose to read!!!! Plus I kept losing my tiny cell phone in my purse I ended up having to get a smalller purse.
I was being facetious... No IMP-3 players that I know of.
They do seem to come up with all this stuff. We all need a personal teenage assistant to work it for us.
My 10 year old nephew is a whiz at all the tech stuff. I think it helps that he grow up with it. For us 8 track players and pong for atari 2600 were huge deals. It's amazing the things that have been invented in my lifetime.
And to think I was proud of my 80's technology. No joke I still play on an original Gameboy...the pre-colorized. Younger people compliment me "WOW a genuine antique video game".
An antique should be 100 years or older. Your game boy is just a collectible.
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