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Old June 17th, 2009, 05:14 PM
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Default "overboard" news, and commentary by Peter Greenber

From the CBS Morning show, here is a news segment, and a commentary from Peter Greenberg about people who end up in the ocean!

http://www.petergreenberg.com/2009/0...n-three-weeks/
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Ironic that the clip is preceded by a Bacardi commercial.
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I love Peter Greenbergs programs. They're informative and hilarious at the same time.
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anyone going overboard, as he said it either "committed to the act" or the subject of foul play, stupidity or drugs or alcohol.

I agree that a ship seems the perfect place for a crime to take place, but if you follow safety rules and don't do anywhere on the ship alone, where trhere are not any crowds, or groups of others, then you are likely to be a victim, whether it's on a ship, in a hotel, or even at home.

I'm going solo for the first time in March and I will not be going anywhere on the ship alone, not at night anyway...

if I have any concerns then I will be asking a cruise staff member to escort me to my cabin. I'll be on the empress deck, so it's not just cabins - intenrnet cafe, other public areas that will mean traffic.
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I agree that this is very unfortunate and that everyone should take precautions. As for crime, well, I guess it could happen but if, for argument sake, I wanted to murder someone, I would be unlikely to try to do it where they may be cameras and also when your relationship with the victim may be know (say you booked together) and where you have nowhere to run to. I mean in the streets, someone could shot you and run but on a boat, where to? However, yes taken precautions about one's safety is always advisable.

Excesive alcohol and suicide are in my opinion more likely causes. I'm a bit surprised that these people were adults as opposed to children or teenagers, who as we all know like playing around and being daring as a general rule.

I will stay clear off the railings since I'm shortly going on a Carnival cruise!
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anyone going overboard, as he said it either "committed to the act" or the subject of foul play, stupidity or drugs or alcohol.

I agree that a ship seems the perfect place for a crime to take place, but if you follow safety rules and don't do anywhere on the ship alone, where trhere are not any crowds, or groups of others, then you are likely to be a victim, whether it's on a ship, in a hotel, or even at home.

I'm going solo for the first time in March and I will not be going anywhere on the ship alone, not at night anyway...

if I have any concerns then I will be asking a cruise staff member to escort me to my cabin. I'll be on the empress deck, so it's not just cabins - intenrnet cafe, other public areas that will mean traffic.
Are you saying that you feel the ship is unsafe at night? If so, what is it that is unsafe? people?
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I will stay clear off the railings since I'm shortly going on a Carnival cruise!
I have spent plenty of time resting against the rails watching the ocean go by, the sun set, or the activity in port. I never felt at risk, and I will continue to do so.

So Vi, go ahead lean on the rails and enjoy the view. Just don't climb on them.
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I will stay clear off the railings since I'm shortly going on a Carnival cruise!
I have spent plenty of time resting against the rails watching the ocean go by, the sun set, or the activity in port. I never felt at risk, and I will continue to do so.

So Vi, go ahead lean on the rails and enjoy the view. Just don't climb on them.
Yeah, of course just leaning would be okay. I certainly not one with a desire to jump!
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I have never felt unsafe on a cruise ship, even alone at night. And, I grew up in a big city with a very high crime rate. One huge difference is that the druggies, gang members, etc. are highly unlikely to be taking a cruise. So the odds of random violence are minimal. Plus, people wander the ships at all hours. You may be alone one minute and have a group of kids or adults or both come by any second.
The only part of a cruise that may be dangerous to a passenger is the crew quarters. Occasionally, some foolish young lady may go off with a crew member into that area of the ship, then wonder how his attentions became very clear so fast. But. other than that, you will see me up on deck at night, stargazing and feeling safe. I may be with my honey, or he may be elsewhere.
The ports can be a different story. But. some common sense can avoid problems there.
Just FYI, I have cruised alone 15-20 times (lost count) and have never had the slightest hint of danger come my way. People who go overboard don't take passengers along!
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anyone going overboard, as he said it either "committed to the act" or the subject of foul play, stupidity or drugs or alcohol.

I agree that a ship seems the perfect place for a crime to take place, but if you follow safety rules and don't do anywhere on the ship alone, where trhere are not any crowds, or groups of others, then you are likely to be a victim, whether it's on a ship, in a hotel, or even at home.

I'm going solo for the first time in March and I will not be going anywhere on the ship alone, not at night anyway...

if I have any concerns then I will be asking a cruise staff member to escort me to my cabin. I'll be on the empress deck, so it's not just cabins - intenrnet cafe, other public areas that will mean traffic.
I've cruised solo and you feel very safe ( if you're not leaning over the rails that is) as you are on camera almost everywhere you go.
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The railings are higher than you might think. Impossible to accidentally fall over them unless you climb up first. Or, maybe if you are an NBA player, leaning might not be a good idea. But, anyone shorter than that would have to work at falling. So, go ahead and lean on them.
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The railings are higher than you might think. Impossible to accidentally fall over them unless you climb up first. Or, maybe if you are an NBA player, leaning might not be a good idea. But, anyone shorter than that would have to work at falling. So, go ahead and lean on them.
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So true. I was on the Holiday when this happened. I felt really bad for her family. We had orginally gotten the news that she was a younger woman. It put a damper on the vacation on the first day. But afterwards we were kinda able to enjoy the rest of the cruise. We did not get off in Coz until close to 5, and were back on around 7:30-8. But all in all we had a great time!
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