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Old June 28th, 2009, 05:45 PM
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Will Carnival quit using this port,with the cival unrest there
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I doubt it.
1) According to our friends in Honduras the unrest is not as wide spread as they would like us to believe. The protests are in the capital of Tegucigalpa which is a very long way from the coast.
2) The president has been highly unpopular, even among his own party, so despite CNN's spin on this it was not a typical military coup. The military (along with the Supreme Court, the senate and the house) removed a dictator from the presidential palace. The VP will take his place and elections would normally occur this fall anyway. In Honduras you can only serve one four year term as President (part of this man's plan was to extend his own term )
3) Honduras is the original Banana Republic (really, the term was coined there because of Dole's presence) and they have had their belly full of dictators in years past and while they're pretty backward, they know what to do with tin horn despots
4) Roatan, the cruise terminal, is on an island off the coast of Honduras and while it is a part of Honduras, you'd never know it by asking mainland Hondurans (and vice versa). Tourism is everybody's paycheck on the island and there will not be any activity on the island that might threaten that. There are no tours from the island to the mainland, unless things have changed since I last looked at the excursions.
5) This should be done with quickly

Let's pray for the peace of the gentle people of Honduras
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There was a coup there today......I was in Caracas after a coup, but more time had elapsed . I would stay onboard if my ship was going to port there, in the near future. I honestly think there may be an itinerary change, till things get sorted out.
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US warns citizens to avoid travel to Honduras

WASHINGTON (AP) — The State Department on Monday warned U.S. citizens to avoid all nonessential travel to Honduras due to the "current unstable political and security situation" there.

Noting the ouster on Sunday by the Honduran military of President Manuel Zelaya, the department in a statement late Monday also recommended that American citizens residing in and visiting Honduras remain close to their homes or hotels "unless their travel is of a life or death nature," or for a scheduled departure from Honduras. It urged U.S. citizens to restrict travel within the country to necessary trips.

It said the U.S. Embassy has restricted the travel of its staff within Honduras to necessary trips.

"There have been regular demonstrations at the presidential palace in central Tegucigalpa, and streets in the vicinity of many government offices are blocked by police or military," the statement said. "In general, the streets of Tegucigalpa and San Pedro Sula are quiet. Reports from the rest of the country indicate that calm prevails, although there have been cases of occasional roadblocks."

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Carnival announced today that they WOULD be making their port stops in Roatan this week.
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CCL has skipped ports in the past w/o the warning from the State Dept in place.

If they were to go ahead and stop in Honduras despite the current warning, that to me would leave quite a confusion as to their rationale for not porting in the past.

I guess we will have to wait and see if they decide to skip the port while enroute. That would then yield another round of gripes that" they knew they weren't going to stop there and didn't tell us ahead of time" or " we were told they were going to stop and then they skipped it anyway".

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It's a no win situation for them for sure.
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We were in Isla Rotan two weeks ago. We didn't book an excursion but wanted to take a nice walk outsdie the dock. We were hounded by natives wanting to take us on a tour of the island. They were hard to get rid of. When we did, we noticed uniformed soldiers with machine guns on the streets. We decided to return to the ship early. Better safe than sorry. They do have nice little shops you can visit at the dock though where it is safe. On a side note, the island is beautiful to look at.
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Even in good times you will see guards with guns anywhere in Honduras.
I found it disconcertinng when we first began going there but got used to it after a while. Don't notice it much now.

I had a letter from the Bishop of Honduras yesterday and he said overall the situation is calm but there are pockets of unrest. By and large the people are supporting the ouster of Zelaya and the action of the Supreme Court but Chavez has hired demonstrators to keep things stirred up.
He has asked all mission teams scheduled to ccome in July reschedule for later in the year.

As I've said before, Roatan is a very different part of Honduras. It begrudgingly calls itself part of Honduras. It is much richer and is the major source of tourism dollars so they will make great efforts to keep things calm on Roatan.

However, when the state department issues a travel advisory it does make it hard for the cruise lines to ignore. Knowing what I do from multiple sources within Honduras, I would not hesitate to go to Honduras, but I can certainly understand anyone else not going - especially if they have fiduciary responsibility for others' safety.
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