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I know that you are allowed to bring a bottle of wine in your carry on, but what if we open it the night before and drink about a fourth of it (at the hotel)? Can we still bring it, or does it have to be an un-opened bottle? Thanks in advance
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I don't think you would have a problem unless it leaked.
However, just to be safe I would drink it all.
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What about bring on homemade wine. I have a Katlady 2009 that is aging as we speak. It would be fun to bring that wine on to the Splendor in May.
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It's not the wine, it's the opened part that may matter. They don't want spillage ruining their x-ray machine. Occasionally, but not always, they don't like a partially drunk bottle of water going through (in plain sight). Reseal it well and don't look like a terrorist. Once it is through, oops!

I would make sure it is resealed well and take your chances. Worst case, carry it on anyway, internally, of course.
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What about bring on homemade wine. I have a Katlady 2009 that is aging as we speak. It would be fun to bring that wine on to the Splendor in May.
Interesting question.

I hope that you can bring your Katlady 2009.

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When we boarded "Legend" last month, they stopped people (including the lovely Mrs. Jones) who had open bottles of ANY KIND,,,including water. We had to dispose of them at the X-Ray machine, or be denied boarding! I've never seen them do that before! Fortunately, we only had an opened bottle of water, but I'd sure hate to lose 3/4ths of a bottle of good vino! :evil:

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In my case, once I open a bottle of wine, I don't usually end up with much left.

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Bring two bottles. Drink one at the hotel and bring the other one aboard. Problem solved!
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ok, sounds like we should finish the bottle! lol...we are not real big drinkers, might just wait and have it on the boat instead of the hotel Thanks for all replies

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That is a definitive "Not Allowed". It isn't so much the cruise lines regulations that would stop it. TSA and Homeland Security regulations wouldn't allow it due to the fact that it is easily possible for a less than savory character(ie jihadist(the radical muslims that use terror tactics), criminals, covert operative(hey, it's possible, though unlikely), or just plain nutjob) could smuggle explosives aboard in a wine bottle, soda bottle, water bottle, or even a shampoo bottle that has been opened. That is the real concern, not the alcohol itself, which in itself can be explosive in a limited range. The trick to learning why these rules are in place is a bit of mental roleplaying(without becoming the bad guy of course) and thinking "If I were a (entert type of person here), how would I do this".
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Bring two bottles. Drink one at the hotel and bring the other one aboard. Problem solved!
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Sort of related to this question---lots of wine now a days have screw tops---would you still have to pay a corkage fee ?--kind of laughing when I say that------
Guess if I could bring on two bottle of wine-- I make sure that they were full------I'm not cheap but the prices that they charge on the ship are way out of line IMHO------for bottles that is----

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The prices on the ship for bottles is not out of line for the wine they offer. From what I can tell, the wine offered on board is much higher quality than what you would find at the grocery store and perhaps even a local liquor store. You have to realize that it depends on the brand and vintage how much wine is worth. A rare vintage can easily cost several hundred dollars.
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The prices on the ship for bottles is not out of line for the wine they offer. From what I can tell, the wine offered on board is much higher quality than what you would find at the grocery store and perhaps even a local liquor store. You have to realize that it depends on the brand and vintage how much wine is worth. A rare vintage can easily cost several hundred dollars.
You have never shopping in a Grocery store in California. I'm surrond on all sides all wineries and wine grape. Plus a short one hour drive and I'm in Napa. The ship's select is nothing compared to what I can bring on board. Wine is a hobby down here.

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I have yet to make it to California, but it is on my to do list. However, in most cities, the typical bottle of wine is of a value of $4-$20 in a grocery store, up to about $50 in most liquor stores that do not specialize in wine. I am well traveled and have notice this tends to be the trend. Of course, if I could get my hands on a nice bottle of vintage Dom or Cristal, I would happily take it on board with me. Of course, I know those both can easily run $500 or more a bottle. Soon, very soon.
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That is a definitive "Not Allowed". It isn't so much the cruise lines regulations that would stop it. TSA and Homeland Security regulations wouldn't allow it due to the fact that it is easily possible for a less than savory character(ie jihadist(the radical muslims that use terror tactics), criminals, covert operative(hey, it's possible, though unlikely), or just plain nutjob) could smuggle explosives aboard in a wine bottle, soda bottle, water bottle, or even a shampoo bottle that has been opened. That is the real concern, not the alcohol itself, which in itself can be explosive in a limited range. The trick to learning why these rules are in place is a bit of mental roleplaying(without becoming the bad guy of course) and thinking "If I were a (entert type of person here), how would I do this".
You will not be stopped from bringing any open bottles of shampoo, shower gel, lotion, etc. onto the ship (or on a plane for that matter, as long as it's checked). It's the agricultural laws which govern bringing food onto and off the ships unless it is factory sealed. It has nothing to do with terrorism. These laws have been in place for decades and most countries have them in some form. It's to keep foreign pests from being introduced into the environment.
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Agricultural laws have been in place, but I can certainly tell you that the TSA also has regulations in place now because of the threat of a terrorist action. It is simply very easy to break down high explosives into base chemicals to smuggle. That is why they would simply confiscate any open bottles at the security checkpoint. Although I may be from a rural town, my specialty is not agriculture(when can we just start synthesizing food from energy like they did on Star Trek so we can just put all the agriculturalists out of business). My specialties are art, science, and giving everyone h**l.

I know about checked luggage btw, but I would not recommend putting an open bottle of wine in checked luggage due to possible spillage and since sometimes bags are lost.
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Agricultural laws have been in place, but I can certainly tell you that the TSA also has regulations in place now because of the threat of a terrorist action. It is simply very easy to break down high explosives into base chemicals to smuggle. That is why they would simply confiscate any open bottles at the security checkpoint. Although I may be from a rural town, my specialty is not agriculture(when can we just start synthesizing food from energy like they did on Star Trek so we can just put all the agriculturalists out of business). My specialties are art, science, and giving everyone h**l.

I know about checked luggage btw, but I would not recommend putting an open bottle of wine in checked luggage due to possible spillage and since sometimes bags are lost.
These TSA regulations cover the airport. There is no TSA presence on the cruise ship.
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I have to totally agree with you Kat
Living in CA too---the prices are great---and cheap--Dom goes for around 110.00 at Costco----and Korbel 8.49---------I think Carnval has Korbel for 30.00-- one of the cheapest cruiseline prices around-----I guess were just spoiled---
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Sort of related to this question---lots of wine now a days have screw tops---would you still have to pay a corkage fee ?--kind of laughing when I say that------
Guess if I could bring on two bottle of wine-- I make sure that they were full------I'm not cheap but the prices that they charge on the ship are way out of line IMHO------for bottles that is----

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An interesting question. I think he "corkage" fee is more for you drinking your own wine rather the CCLs and not so much as removing the cork like you can't do it yourself, so I bet they would charge you a "screwage" fee too.

While wine on the ship is a lot more expensive than in the store, especially in CA, it isn't that much more expensive than in restaurants.
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TSA regs actually covers all transportation as far as I am aware, as they are part of the Homeland Security Administration. Homeland Security would likely have the same rules along their constituent agencies. It is a bit confusing with all the new regulations since 9/11. I will check into it for sure though.
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It doesn't make sense to me that the rules would be the same for checked bags for cruises and planes. On a cruise, you have access to checked luggage...not on planes. But, the rules are what they are and no point in trying to be logical about it.
We've never had a problem with open containers on a cruise. But, I am not surprised that they are trying to tighten up the rules. And since we don't try to sneak anything on board, it is not really a worry for us.
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If you really stop and think about it, a ship is far more dangeous for something to slip onto than a plane. Someone on a plane really cannot move around as freely and if needed can be taken down, particularly if an air marshal is on board. On a ship, someone with bad intentions can get into closed spaces with dangerous equipment and gasses quite easily. After all, there is a reason why the Navy limits the smoking areas on ships.
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However, just to be safe I would drink it all.
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Shame they won't let you take Grog on board.
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Shame they won't let you take Grog on board.
You can take one liter of GROG aboard, if the bottle is still sealed! Just don't be drinkin' your GROG while checking in! ARARRRGGGGHHH.

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I think that would be disallowed under the rules dealing with hard liquor. After all, it is rum and water.
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I think we need a Grog recipe ARARRRGGGGHHH!!! Just in time for Halloween.
http://www.gone-ta-pott.com/grog.html

Pirate Grog Recipe

Add approximately one ounce of fine rum (the rum used in the Royal Navy was an exceptional quality alcohol) to tin or glass of water (7 to 9 oz.)

A more complex recipe

1 (oz) of Rum

the juice of half a lime

one or two teaspoons of cane sugar

and fill the rest of your tin or mug with water.

Grog as a Hot Drink

The most famous coctail that was consumed by pirates was certainly grog. Grog is a hot drink made of

1/2 cup of spiced rum

2 cans of beer

1 package of oatmeal (instant quaker oatmeal, cinnamon and spice preferred) dash of paprika



The recipe says oatmeal should be cooked using the beer instead the boiling water. Other ingredians should be added into the mixture durin the cooking
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I have to totally agree with you Kat
Living in CA too---the prices are great---and cheap--Dom goes for around 110.00 at Costco----and Korbel 8.49---------I think Carnval has Korbel for 30.00-- one of the cheapest cruiseline prices around-----I guess were just spoiled---
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I still say why would I waste my time on the French stuff when the Calfiornian wines are so much better. No Dom for me I prefer Sparkling wine to Champagne. BTW the Katlady Vintage 2006 has a bottle that under went a second fermentation and was made into sparkling wine. It's in the kicthen still I will have to uncork that soon and see if it worked out.
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Only thing is the only true Champagne in the world comes from the Champagne province in France. To drink Dom says as much about the drinker as it does the wine. It is simply a show of exquisite taste.
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