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Old April 24th, 2010, 10:59 PM
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I was on the fantasy out of mobile the same day this happened..We had to turn around and pick up a small boat floating upside down in middle of Gulf. We were on way to Cozomel. Water was flat calm. Im ex navy, and know if you make a sudden turn at high speeds the ship will lean over. Sounds like they didnt slow down enougth before they saw the bouy to make the turn. The stabilizers out both sides in a high speed turn will grip the water more easly and cause the ship to list. The shudder you heard was the engine isopods thrown the other direction (reverse) to slow the ship.
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Old April 25th, 2010, 01:49 AM
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I love youtube someone filming this of the aftermath of the listing. I couldn't find video of the event however. It reminds me of an earthquake aftermath.
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A thought....

All of those pax on the ship that took pictures with their phones during the incident.

Some phones have what is called "GPS tagging" so that you know exactly where you were when you took the picture.

If even a few folks who has this feature took a look at their pics and shared the coordinates we could know where exactly the event occured, rather than waiting the weeks/months for the official USCG report.

Certainly the pax info will be as much or more reliable than the official Carnival info.;-)

Or is that just more speculation than fact being reported?

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Or is that just more speculation than fact being reported?
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The ship listed, things fell down, there were minor injuries.

I get that you think somthing is hidden and there is some kind of conspiracy between Carnival and the government to prevent us from knowing what really happened.

All I can do is shake my head.
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I think he is just referring to the question of whether there were shoals there or not as some people have claimed.

Every time something like this happens there are a number of people who want to get something out of it. Some of them may have legitimate claims, and some of them may just see an opportunity to make a claim - for back pain and other hard to diagnose maladies.

The only conspiracy will be between those (the latter) people and the trial lawyers, who ARE still milking this incident for everything that they can say.
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I think he is just referring to the question of whether there were shoals there or not as some people have claimed.

Yes, Paul. Thank you. That is what I meant.

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Just another chapter in the book of incidents that happen from time to time on ships-- something happens--someone films it-- the cruise line and Gov. are in cahoots to cover up something diabolical, to keep the real truth from coming out, etc., etc., etc,. and of course there's always the sharks slowly swirling about--waiting for a bite of the money-- some are passengers who can't wait to contact an attorney and attorney's who can't wait to be contacted, and so it goes.
Is Carnival liable for swerving to keep from hitting a partially submerged object that couldn't be seen until the last moment? Someone said they were ex-navy and a ship leaned when it swerved at high speed-- I'm ex-Army and I know when you steer hard to one side or the other in a ship, it will lean-- so will a car--
common sense will tell you that but were they going at " high speed"? If the water was glassy calm as someone said they wouldn't have had the stabilizers deployed anyway so that wouldn't be a factor.
Why did they have to swerve--that's the whole question but it seems like it wasn't the major ordeal that some have made out of it--but you can bet the sharks will reap some benefit from it and the cost, as with everything else will be passed on down to the majority who don't smell blood at the least bump. Happy sailing, happy swerving, be safe from all the bumps in the road of life and all that!
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Ron....

So right. Ship happens at sea, it just does. You are on a ship.

A ship in calm waters should never have to make a sharp turn like that, so it was unexpected. Unforunately, like the NCL rogue wave and the Princess list, the line is just going to have to play out the inevitable lawsuits.
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