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Default Carnival can learn a few things from Royal

Just got off my first RCCL trip after 11 Carnival trips and I have some observations and suggestions if anybody really cares.

1. Royal has an absolutely beautiful ship in the Freedom of the Seas. It blows Carnival away. Lots of glass and not a lot of the neon crazy stuff Carnival ships have. I found it impressive but thats a matter of taste.

2. Love the fact that the waiters in the lido restaurant bring you drinks..coffee, water juice etc. You can also pick them up prepoured at a counter. And not in those ugly plastic yellow and green cups Carnival has. Hate having to wait to fill up my drinks at the coffee station. There is a greeter at the entrance to the lido restaurant as well. We even got a waiter to find us a table when it was crowded. Nice touch.

3. Food was as good if not better than Carny, pizza in a restaurant rather than a counter by the pool? good deal.. again a matter of taste.

4. No dining room photographers.. I hate being bothered when I eat.

5. For debarking self assist there was only a mention of it in the daily paper. Carnival almost tries to sell the program and so many people take advantage of it it slows everybody down. Personally I think it doesnt save much time to begin with. Too many people carry off more than they can handle.

These are just a few of my thoughts about the 2 lines. Service and entertainment are similiar and I enjoy them both. I am sailing Carnival again this fall so I am not bashing but those little touches impressed me. It was a hard sell to get me to try Royal but my fave is still Carnival. Hope they see whats going on with their competition. We all want the best cruise experience dont we?
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Old April 30th, 2010, 02:36 PM
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Self-assist people should be made to audition the night before and if they can't pass the test then they are banned from trying it the next day. Sounds like there are many candidates for America's funniest home videos just waiting to be filmed.

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We have always sailed with Carnival and we love it. RCCL is much more expensive from what I can tell. Since we enjoy Carnival so much, we would hate to try anything else and then have to pick.

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4. No dining room photographers.. I hate being bothered when I eat.
Totally agree on this one. The photogs are too much on CCL. Leave us alone already!!

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1. Royal has an absolutely beautiful ship in the Freedom of the Seas. It blows Carnival away. Lots of glass and not a lot of the neon crazy stuff Carnival ships have. I found it impressive but thats a matter of taste.
But the decor is not as "fun"

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Old May 1st, 2010, 11:30 AM
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I was on Royal's Explorer 3 years ago, and I agree, the ships are classy and look fabulous. But the sometimes "crayon box" colors of carnival dont bother me one bit, so not a big deal.

The food on Royal is comparable, but I was not impressed with the wait staff. We had a few folks at our table that wanted to try a 2nd main course and were told, that the waiters were too busy.... I was shocked at that reply and so were my tablemates. That was probably just poor service and not indicative of the entire crusie line - it could happen on any line.

For the price, I like Carny - if I can take one more cruise per year with the savings over Royal, then Carny it will be
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Now that I have had a sampling of Royal after having sailed a few times on Carnival, I agree I love the open-ness with the glass of Royal (Enchantment Fall 2009). It was a real life saver for our cruise because our day at sea we were stuck in a hurricane. Enchantment handled beautifully. There were areas for the passengers from the lower cabins to move to upper deck lounges and lounge areas to "weather" the storm. The solarium on Enchantment was wonderful. We have granddaughters and Royal (at least Enchantment) has a wading pool area that adjoins the deeper pool that would be perfect for them. With some of the renovations to make room for WaterWorks, Carnival has done away with the kiddie pools to make room for the serenity areas with the hot tubs for adults only. I was very disappointed that WaterWorks on Inspiration April 10th voyage was not on every day of the cruise, only the water slides were. Now for the upside of Carnival:

1. Loved My Time dining. You could either be seated alone or with a group. Inspiration's buffet dining was delicious. I love good prime rib and I couldn't get enough. The chateaubriand was to die for in the dining room. By using My Time, that meant I saved man calories by just having chocolate melting cake one evening.

2. Cabin size: hands down Carnival wins in this category. Our oceanview cabin on Enchantment (not the lowest deck but the one above it) was a shoebox. Never again. On Royal, it will be a balcony or no cruise at all the next time.

3. Childrens' Programs: hands down again Carnival wins in this category. Probably with the exception of Disney, the other cruise lines could learn a thing or too. The spaciousness and security of Camp Carnival, Club 02, etc. is great. My granddaughter had to be forced out of CC one evening. You know the program works when the kids tell their parents and grandparents, come back later! I think the last night we saw the largest congregation of kids and that was because it was their last night. I think some kids were actually crying that they didn't want to go home. That's what camp is about!

4. Entertainment: probably equal except that I like some of the lounges that Enchantment had and were invaluable the day we were stuck inside because of the hurricane.

5. Casinos: hmmmm - about the same. I think Carnival lost some casino space when they renovated their Fantasy class ships.

6. Pool side games: Carnival Inspiration won on my last cruise for this aspect. Whoever the clever assistant activities directors are on Inspiration have some now that are a lot of fun to watch even if they do still have the hairy chest competition.

7. Pool side activities: besides sail away and the other late night activities, I loved when they taught hip hop moves to adults, with some kids included, our last day at sea. There are going to be some kids who are shocked at what their parents can do when they come home from this cruise again...

8. Karoake (sp?): Inspiration's mc for this event is great. I wish I had been able to watch other nights, not just the last night. She was great. Picture Kathy Najimy.

9. Staff: On Royal, everyone looked miserable. On Carnival, you are always greeted and 98.9% of the time, it is with a smile! I actually said to a RC staff member once, don't you smile?

10. Pursar's desk: Carnival Inspiration - your help on April 10th voyage was spectacular, from getting us our onboard credits we had forgotten about, to solving the mystery of the nighttime noise below our cabin for which an alternate cabin was offered but passed on since we only had two more nights to go. We now know to book on starboard side Empress next trip.

I would sail both lines again. For family, I would stick with Carnival, for gf getaways Carnival, for my husband who loves Carnival, Carnival, and for me, if I could alternate RC and Carnival twice a year I would but until I win the lottery, we'll have to alternate years! Other than the cabin size, I was happy with RC.

Families: you cannot fit four people in a lower cabin on Royal, you will suffocate.

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EVERY cruise line could learn a few things from it's competitors.

I'm not a Carnival Cheerleader and would NEVER EVER consider a Carnival Cruise.

But consider this:

Carnival Cruise Line operates their fleet with the lowest costs and highest profits in the industry. They have been #1 in lowest operating costs, and #1 in highest profits EVERY year since the mid-90's.

Carnival Cruise Line has had the highest Guest Satisfaction ratings (for their entire fleet) in the Cruise Industry since the early 1990's. In fact, no other cruise line has ever even come close over the past 18 consecutive years. These ratings come from the passengers - not a magazine or a travel writer.

In the Forbes Magazine list of Best Companies in the USA (released last week), Carnival was listed at #51 - ahead of all the US Airlines. No other cruise line was listed in the Top 200.

I repeat; EVERY cruise line could learn something from it's competitors. But looking at RCCL/Celebrity with all their financial challenges and perpetually mediocre ratings, they might choose to learn a bit from Carnival.
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And one more thing. We should all learn to live in peace as they do on cruiseships. You have people from different countries and differnt cultures all getting along and having a good time.

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