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I got curious as to what the smoking policy for Disney was so I went and checked. All I had to do was go to FAQs under Health and Safety. The reason I got curious is because the individual stated that the husband's parent had been cruising Disney for a couple of years and wanted them to join in the experience. Also if the grandparents were aware of how severe the grandchild's reaction was to smoke I guess I am surprised that the grandparents did not mention that there were places on the ship where people could smoke. The other thing is if the child's reaction is so severe I was surprise that the parents did not do some research prior to booking a cruise. All it would take is a quick check of the web site of the cruise line or one quick toll free phone call to the cruise line. I hope the family finds a vacation that fits for them.

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Disney Cruise Line has never allowed smoking in Guest staterooms. In addition, smoking is prohibited in all interior spaces throughout our ships. However, private verandahs and starboard-side open-air decks 9 and 10 have been designated as smoking areas in an effort to provide a cruise experience that satisfies both our non-smoking and smoking Guests. Between the hours of 6 p.m. and 6 a.m., smoking is also allowed on the starboard-side of Deck 4. The remaining hours are dedicated to those wishing to jog or walk along the Promenade.
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once again as stated before

"the parents"

live in a state that for years has been virtually smoke free in all public places so removed from the task of having to "research" the idea of clean non toxic air in which to fill our and our children's lungs with while on vacation

I take full blame for my failure to "adequately research" our vacation
I have since learned my lesson that non cigarette smoke polluted air research needs to be placed on the "planning a vacation check list" next to how far is the next rest stop and where are we gonna eat -and will never again commit such a sin -This however does not mean that I don't have a right to complain about something I dont like...just look up the complaint boards and see the petty crud that people moan about...I think getting cancer is as worthy of a whine fest as some of the stuff I have seen people complain about--and of course there is always that subset of message board users that just HAVE to say something to everything "you dont like having to dress fancy one night? well cruising isnt for you then" "you dont like children-well cruising isnt for you then" "you dont like living for a week with strangers -90% of which will not have the same standards of "manners" as you do for yourself...then cruising isnt for you" you dont like tipping someone for a service.. cruising isnt for you"--its the go to answer

yes I GET that I have not made friends with the smokers of this message board --yes I am self righteous and cranky and passionate about an issue and I have struck a nerve on some people that cant resist a chance to open a thread that they know they are not gonna like..thus putting themselves in a place to play victim to the mean uppity full of herself non smoker that wants to strip their rights/enjoyment/addiction away from them so her child can breathe and then get uproariously peeved when she serves that tasty morsel of truth hurts back at them rather than slinks away.

I mean really..since I have already ticked off the smokers of this board so much..why not just go all the way--happy?

Guess what
I still think the smoking policy on Carnival is unfair and unhealthy-
I still think that in order to enjoy a smoke free cruise one must be a millionaire and book some exotic luxury line is discrimination
I still think there is a lot of room for improvement so that both "sides" can be happier and
Im still gonna go on my cruise to Cabo in October and have the best danged time anyone has ever had on a vacation--all because I was able to get this off my chest here now to anonymous strangers--I much prefer spewing my anti cigarette smoke sentiment on you all (that keep giving me things to reply to) rather than to my balcony smoking neighbor
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Wow. Must be tough going through life with a chip that big on your shoulder. My condolences.

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I fully agree. Must be some kind of pent up anger in there. Life is to short not to enjoy it.
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You know what I find interesting most of the people on these sites try to share information to help others in finding information to help enjoy their trip and it appears that instead of taking the information that was provided to help enjoy the experience and keep your son's health in mind you went on the defensive. No one was being judgemental except yourself others where just trying to provide you with the best information they had based on your original questions and their experiences. I hope you and your family enjoy your cruise.
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I don't like to sit next to the obese man who is spilling into my seat on the airplane. I don't like listening to the drunk in the pool with the voice that escalates in volume and increases in profanity as he finishes each tequila shot. I am not fond of watching itchy and scratchy play tonsel hockey gropeapalooza in the pool while my kids are around. It bothers me when someone dips one tortilla chip into the guacamole twice. It irritates me when people cut in line and when one person saves eight seats. The lady who leaves her blinker on for three miles on the freeway annoys me. When, and only when, you have decided what drink you would like to order should you get in line at Starbucks.

However, I am a smoker. I smoke cigars and I enjoy their smell. I am aware that they are "allegedly" bad for you. I have heard that they may cause "health problems". I am so tired of the politically correct tip-toeing that has permeated our society today that it makes me want to vomit. I will obey the rules where smoking is concerned. You have the right to ask me not to smoke near you, but if you are in a smoking area I have the right to politely decline your request. Should you choose to complain at that point you may as well make it a matter of record with the corporate boys. Understand that if I cannot smoke somewhere, I must choose whether I still would like to go there. If I make that choice, shame on me if I complain that there is nowhere to smoke.

The extermination of personal liberties cannot be selective by nature. If smoking can be banned, why not alcohol? Alcohol is responsible for the deaths of more people than tobacco and all other drugs combined. Ask any ER doctor. What about overeating? Should I have to be responsible for higher healthcare premiums because of the eating habits of others that are insured? Perhaps those with a higher body fat should pay higher insurance premiums and be taxed on everything they consume each day above 2000 calories.

I have the right to eat, drink, smoke, watch dirty movies, fart in the elevator, sing in the car and I vote with my wallet. I'll not sit back and have a few people talk down to smokers as if they are an inconsiderate, diseased lot of miscreant, reprobate toad people. We have feelings, you know. Not as many feelings, obviously, as non-smokers, but we do have a few of them. You want to live in the solution and find a way to limit your exposure on a cruise, please be my guest. That seems reasonable. But when you don't do the research on the front-end to protect your family please don't look to the 3000 passengers to change their behavior. FYI, I would also not take your son to Las Vegas, Paris, Mexico or Texas, for that matter, as there is widespread smoking going on that you may not be aware of.
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I still think that in order to enjoy a smoke free cruise one must be a millionaire and book some exotic luxury line is discrimination
Celebrity, Royal Caribbean ,and Norwegian are all mass market lines where (with the exception of the casino on NCL) all public rooms are smoke free.

So, you don't have to be a millionaire to cruise them.
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I don't like to sit next to the obese man who is spilling into my seat on the airplane. I don't like listening to the drunk in the pool with the voice that escalates in volume and increases in profanity as he finishes each tequila shot. I am not fond of watching itchy and scratchy play tonsel hockey gropeapalooza in the pool while my kids are around. It bothers me when someone dips one tortilla chip into the guacamole twice. It irritates me when people cut in line and when one person saves eight seats. The lady who leaves her blinker on for three miles on the freeway annoys me. When, and only when, you have decided what drink you would like to order should you get in line at Starbucks.

However, I am a smoker. I smoke cigars and I enjoy their smell. I am aware that they are "allegedly" bad for you. I have heard that they may cause "health problems". I am so tired of the politically correct tip-toeing that has permeated our society today that it makes me want to vomit. I will obey the rules where smoking is concerned. You have the right to ask me not to smoke near you, but if you are in a smoking area I have the right to politely decline your request. Should you choose to complain at that point you may as well make it a matter of record with the corporate boys. Understand that if I cannot smoke somewhere, I must choose whether I still would like to go there. If I make that choice, shame on me if I complain that there is nowhere to smoke.

The extermination of personal liberties cannot be selective by nature. If smoking can be banned, why not alcohol? Alcohol is responsible for the deaths of more people than tobacco and all other drugs combined. Ask any ER doctor. What about overeating? Should I have to be responsible for higher healthcare premiums because of the eating habits of others that are insured? Perhaps those with a higher body fat should pay higher insurance premiums and be taxed on everything they consume each day above 2000 calories.

I have the right to eat, drink, smoke, watch dirty movies, fart in the elevator, sing in the car and I vote with my wallet. I'll not sit back and have a few people talk down to smokers as if they are an inconsiderate, diseased lot of miscreant, reprobate toad people. We have feelings, you know. Not as many feelings, obviously, as non-smokers, but we do have a few of them. You want to live in the solution and find a way to limit your exposure on a cruise, please be my guest. That seems reasonable. But when you don't do the research on the front-end to protect your family please don't look to the 3000 passengers to change their behavior. FYI, I would also not take your son to Las Vegas, Paris, Mexico or Texas, for that matter, as there is widespread smoking going on that you may not be aware of.
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If my child / family member was that sensitive to smoke, I would have checked things out BEFORE booking.

You mention because AZ is smoke free, the thought never entered your mind? Its so important to the health of your child, how could this be over looked? I find that hard to understand. You are so passionat about the issue...why wasn't it at the front of your thought process while vacation planning?

I am a non-smoker and I choose to cruise where people will be smoking, and it is their right to do so. People should take responsibility for themselves and not expect "joe public" to conform to their situation. I don't like the way some people smell on the subway in the summer, but its "public transportation", so I have to take it or leave it. I know stinky people and 2nd hand smoke are totally different, but its the point I'm trying to make.

What's next? We'll will need to pull a permit to fart in public because it might offend someone?????
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I am glad I found this message board site as it had not occurred to me that smoking would even be allowed on board a cruise ship. Living in entirely smoking free Arizona you forget that it's still allowed in public places anymore--My son is very sensitive to cigarette smoke and his asthma goes haywire even being outdoors having someone nearby smoking will set off an attack that requires a full 20 minute breathing treatment with steroids. I see Carnivals ticket contract mentions "non smoking zones" and of course we are sailing on a non spa ship (spirit) so dont even have the option to book an entirely smoke free room.

My question is this--unless otherwise stated then smoking in guest rooms and on balconies is allowed correct? is there a way I can get a direct answer from anyone as to where smoking is allowed other then that? I'm envisioning people smoking pool side and deck side and all over the place? Is this the case?

This is of high concern to me as it has a high chance to become an extremely inconvenient PITA for us if my son has to sit attached to a nebulizer for large portions of our cruise and get hopped up on steroids the entire time. On our trip if the neighbors on either side or above or below up sit on their balconies and smoke every 20 minutes we will then be forced to stay off our own balcony (which obvious you pay more to have) and or to keep our door shut the entire time we are in our room...so why bother even paying for a balcony room?

I know for my first post this is going to come off as hateful but I do have a huge issue with smoking since as I have mentioned it sends my child into a medical tail spin very quickly...I guess we are spoiled living in AZ where you can do most things in public without the fear of being violated by cancer causing second hand smoke due to another pleasure seeking.

Anyways--Im nervous about our 1st ever cruise now
Smoke Free Arizona? How bout that smog in Phoenix? Casinos etc.

You probably should just stay home, Carnival is very smoker friendly. A big reason many of us on this board and others cruise Carnival.
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Wow. Must be tough going through life with a chip that big on your shoulder. My condolences.
I'm not sure it's a full blown "chip", but I wonder if there is some anger in general that is inside himself . If his son is that sensitive to a puff of smoke going past his nose, there must be a number of other things he's terribly sensitive to. What about auto emissions, household cleaning items, smoke from the stack of a cruise ship? If cigarette smoke was the only thing that triggers him, he would not know he's asthmatic. Whatever sensitivities he has must restrict the Dad's life to a point he's frustrated and angry that he can't do much of anything or go anywhere like most of us. In esscence, he's not free to come and go. We smokers all know that smoking areas are not all over the ship, in fact they are quite restrictive.
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One other suggestion (that friends of mine use so that they can smoke anywhere....anytime)....Electronic Cigarettes!!!

They love them and they are virtually odorless!!!
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I have just booked my first cruise and am very excited, my husband has served 24 years in the US Air Force and is retiring this July, so his gift to his family is a cruise, he is a non-smoker and I am a smoker, so we saved hard so we could have a suite with a balcony so I have somewhere to smoke, we did this so we had the best of both, he has his smoke free room and I get to enjoy smoking on the balcony, now I am worried I will be next to someone who is going to complain and make things uncomfortable for me. I do sympathize with non-smokers, my hope is by me posting this it will let people see a different side, from a smoker. I want everyone to enjoy their Cruise.
We are also travelling with 2 teenage children who have an inside room opposite us, so they are not around my smoke.
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I concur with Kuki. If your son is this sensitive to smoke then you should cancel this cruise and book on another line. While Carnival does have smoking and non-smoking areas there is a good chance that at some point in the cruise your son may go through a smoking area or someone on a balcony may smoke and he may smell it.

Azamara Cruise Lines and Oceania are almost smoke free. Only two small areas where smoking is allowed. Celebrity cruises does not allow smoking in the casinos, cabins, balconies and most public venues. You can smoke on the port side on the open deck area and in one outdoor bar.

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I know this thread is old, but Celebrity has no smoking casinos????? I am SO booking Celebrity for our next cruise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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First of all, GREAT statement, yelocab!!

I hate a sloppy drunk, mostly because they are very load when drinking, so why not band alcohol?? I dislike sitting in the DR and have some chick wears cheap perfume!

I am a smoker but TRY to be considerate of others but don't tell me that I can't smoke on my balcony or my suite because I paid good money for them.

Most of the ships that I have sailed have a LOT of places where there is no smoking, so why attack the smokers when we have less than 10% of the ship to smoke in.

Just tried of big brother saying what I can do and not do. It is a personal choice.

As far as pollution goes, I would dare to say that the smokers make up a VERY small % of the toxic compared to big companies with smoke coming out of their smoke stacks. Or trucks or car coming out of Mexico that have no regulations that they enforce as far as pollution.

Banned alcohol because that drunk might kill me or my family members. Where does it stop????
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First of all, GREAT statement, yelocab!!



As far as pollution goes, I would dare to say that the smokers make up a VERY small % of the toxic compared to big companies with smoke coming out of their smoke stacks. Or trucks or car coming out of Mexico that have no regulations that they enforce as far as pollution.

Banned alcohol because that drunk might kill me or my family members. Where does it stop????
What about the ship's smoke stack?
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Maybe they will convert it to electric.
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I have just booked my first cruise and am very excited, my husband has served 24 years in the US Air Force and is retiring this July, so his gift to his family is a cruise, he is a non-smoker and I am a smoker, so we saved hard so we could have a suite with a balcony so I have somewhere to smoke, we did this so we had the best of both, he has his smoke free room and I get to enjoy smoking on the balcony, now I am worried I will be next to someone who is going to complain and make things uncomfortable for me. I do sympathize with non-smokers, my hope is by me posting this it will let people see a different side, from a smoker. I want everyone to enjoy their Cruise.
We are also travelling with 2 teenage children who have an inside room opposite us, so they are not around my smoke.

I am not a smoker, but my sisters are and have found that technology has FINALLY given them something they can use.

Njoy510 or the NjoyEgo

1. Electronic cigarettes run about $2 a pack (as opposed to the $5 a pack my sisters were paying)
2. They ONLY get the nicotine and no tar or other 3,000 toxins.
3. They can smoke them virutually anywhere.
4. Uncle Sam isn't making money off them anymore.

They said it took them about a week to get use to them AND (supposedly this is key) the battery must be fully charged.

They both got them to simply have an alternative when "analog" cigarettes were not allowed.....and now they don't even smoke "analog" anymore.

I can not speak to any other digital cigarettes since this is the only brands they have tried....
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Well, we don't smoke and do generally book with cruiselines who limit it, at least. We used to go on Carnival and enjoyed it very much.
However, we usually book with Holland America. They do allow some smoking, and are pretty liberal about it on verandahs and in cabins, so we book an outside to avoid it.
Actually most people on Holland America are older, so I imagine most the smokers who booked with them have passed away from smoking related illnesses.
Have a nice cruise. I am sure you will be able to avoid the smoke if you try.
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Nope still here and been smoking since I was 16 and now in my mid sixties. Doc says I look like a 40 year old person but work out in a gym 3 times a week and blood pressure 126/74.

Still have plenty of sailing to do.
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Good for you Barryn514. I wish you many more healthy years of cruising!!
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As an addicted smoker I certainly don't want to get into an argument about smoking. We just got home from Cozumel/Progresso after sailing on the Triumph and as first time cruisers we immensely enjoyed the trip. As for smoking, it was a bit confusing at times as to where it was allowed. On the open deck there were ash trays supplied in one area. The wind is constantly blowing so the smoke goes pretty much directly behind the ship and it is almost totally non detectable forward of the smoking area or to the side of it. Smoking in the stateroom was discouraged simply by the unenforced rule of not smoking in bed. We smoked on the balcony quite a bit but as mentioned above, the smoke is quickly carried away and there are walls between cabin balconies. The aversion to smoking and so many people claiming to get sick from the slightest exposure is waayyy far overhyped, mostly psychosomatic. I kinda get tired of the wimpy snobs throwing the crap at me about all the chit that's in tobacco. It's not like I don't know it already but then there are all kinds of chit in all kinds of things and doctors prescribe meds that are just as bad if not worse. In my opinion it's mostly just more political crap but I do know that cigarettes are absolutely the most addictive drug, more so than even cocaine. I'd love to quit and just walk away from cigarettes but it ain't happening. If I've offended anyone just realize I'm talking "straight talk" here, not trying to appease anyone or offend anyone. There are plenty of places that do not allow smoking, kinda difficult to find a place to smoke except in the casino. For the most part you can't even smell the smoke anywhere and everyone is very respectful of those who don't smoke. As for the whole deal, just remember that there are a lot of very poor people who make a living off of tourism and selling cigars is a big need for the support of their families.... of course, we can say the same about drug dealers as well as people who have anything to sell no matter how it fits within the social status of our society. So, for my opinion, if someone has a strict aversion to smoking I'd say join others like you and book on a cruise where no smoking is the rule. For others who either smoke or are not offended by smoke let us enjoy our freedom.
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They moan and groan as we are the ones to fight back. "They" can't argue with the drivers of smoke emitting cars, busses, trucks, cruiseship smokestacks (do they even look!), cleaning fluids, their charcoal grills, toilets, and the list goes on. Amazing how the only thing that bothers them is a 1 or 2 second of smoke going past their noses. Life is full of carcinogens but they choose to only target smokers because we will answer them, they won't take on big industry as long as they get their cars, airplanes, perfumes, gasoline etc.
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Smoking really sucks for non-smokers. We can't breathe. You guys may laugh and think you are going to live forever but, it bothers some of us. It's kind of a joke to you until you are on oxygen. For some people, breathing the smoke you push out is difficult and you shouldn't make fun of it. I wish cruiselines were more restrictive. Smoking in staterooms is like suicide. One ciggie in a mattress and we're all dead. it is so stupid.
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Smoking really sucks for non-smokers. We can't breathe. You guys may laugh and think you are going to live forever but, it bothers some of us. It's kind of a joke to you until you are on oxygen. For some people, breathing the smoke you push out is difficult and you shouldn't make fun of it. I wish cruiselines were more restrictive. Smoking in staterooms is like suicide. One ciggie in a mattress and we're all dead. it is so stupid.
No problem, just book your cruise on a restrictive cruiseline. And stay away from the smoking areas.
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Old January 29th, 2011, 11:46 AM
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If some of these people would do some research on air pollution and air quality in LA, Chicago, Pittsburg and NYC and other cities and feel the same way, wonder why they don't attack the big companies like they do the smokers.

They are so focused on people smoking they can't see the real problem. Kinda of tunnel vision.

Here is just ONE report but there are pages after pages of this kind of information. It's easy to attack a person that is smoking a cig but attack the real problem or is it that is it harder to fight a BIG company and has BIG bucks. Comon, get real.

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They moan and groan as we are the ones to fight back. "They" can't argue with the drivers of smoke emitting cars, busses, trucks, cruiseship smokestacks (do they even look!), cleaning fluids, their charcoal grills, toilets, and the list goes on. Amazing how the only thing that bothers them is a 1 or 2 second of smoke going past their noses. Life is full of carcinogens but they choose to only target smokers because we will answer them, they won't take on big industry as long as they get their cars, airplanes, perfumes, gasoline etc.
Exactly....there are far to many toxins that we have to deal with in daily life that are NECESSARY in our society..... why add someone's drug addiction to the list?

Nonsmokers are not "targeting" any one....we are trying to prevent an unnecessary poison from getting into our bodies in a world where we are already overexposed....

This isn't a "whiff" (1 or 2 seconds) we are talking about. We are talking about a HAZE 24/7 in the hallway and a white out in the piano bar and disco.

The hallway exposure alone is to much to expose children to.
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No problem, just book your cruise on a restrictive cruiseline. And stay away from the smoking areas.

Sorry, but I should not have to miss out on the Carnival product that I love because of someone else's addiction......

that is just ridiculous.
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Exactly....there are far to many toxins that we have to deal with in daily life that are NECESSARY in our society..... why add someone's drug addiction to the list?

Nonsmokers are not "targeting" any one....we are trying to prevent an unnecessary poison from getting into our bodies in a world where we are already overexposed....

This isn't a "whiff" (1 or 2 seconds) we are talking about. We are talking about a HAZE 24/7 in the hallway and a white out in the piano bar and disco.

The hallway exposure alone is to much to expose children to.
Toxins that are NECESSARY??

What cruise have you been on that has haze 24/7? A haze?

Whiteouts? Why were you even there?
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