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Old August 31st, 2010, 06:34 PM
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It's over a year and a half away, but we're booked on Carnival Spirit's round trip cruise to Hawaii in April 2012 from San Diego (anyone else planning that far ahead?).

My mom is wondering if the ship moors pierside at the stops or if we anchor out and use tenders. Anyone know the routine there?

I'm getting excited but unfortunately have a long wait ahead!

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Old August 31st, 2010, 06:40 PM
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Kona is the only tender port.

Lots of pictures from our 12 day HI cruise earlier this year:
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The only ports that use tenders are Kona and Lahaina.
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Carnival doesn't go to Lahaina these days - they use Kahului and they dock there.
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Didn't know where went . Just general info.
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Your Mum's ships Itinerary will show all stops and if by tender, normally a code is shown beside the arrival time.

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It's over a year and a half away, but we're booked on Carnival Spirit's round trip cruise to Hawaii....

Is it??
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Is it??
Affirmative! Carnival is doing two 15 day round trips from San Diego, one in Dec. 2011 and the one we're on in April 2012. I don't know if they're "testing the waters" so to speak, to see what the response is, or if there's another reason. I noticed the press release here on Cruisemates a couple weeks ago and didn't waste any time booking it.

I got the impression from the reservation agent that it's selling quite well already- just an impression though.....

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I am also considerig Hawaii. It seems as though they bus you to Ensenada? Why?
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I am also considerig Hawaii. It seems as though they bus you to Ensenada? Why?
Because the ship has to be in at least one foreign port.

But aside from that, you will love the cruise to Hawaii.

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I am also considerig Hawaii. It seems as though they bus you to Ensenada? Why?
To get around the Jones Act. If they left from a US port they would have to stop at a distant foreign port (Fanning Island would be the closest for a Hawaii cruise). Ensenada would not quality in that case.
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To get around the Jones Act. If they left from a US port they would have to stop at a distant foreign port (Fanning Island would be the closest for a Hawaii cruise). Ensenada would not quality in that case.
On a Hawaii cruise Ensenada qualifies as a foreign port.
Both Princess , Holland America and next year Celebrity use Ensenada
as there foreign port stop. It's because Carnival ends it's cruise in Hawaii.
To go to Hawaii they have to start in a foreign port . Currently the Spirit is
schedules for a LA to Hawaii to LA cruise . The foreign port in this cruise
Ensenada.
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It's because Carnival would be transporting passengers from one U.S. port to another. When you do return to where you started, then any foreign port will do, otherwise it has to be a distant foreign port. A US flagged ship wouldn't have to stop in any foreign port, ever.

By starting in Ensenada, the Jones Act becomes irrelevant. Carnival isn't technically transporting passengers from one US port to another even though in fact, they are.
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Does the Carnival cruise by the Kilauea Volcano at night so you can see the lava flowing into the ocean? I know not all cruise lines pass by Kilauea.
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Its actually called the Passengers Vessel Service Act, the Jones Act is cargo....but I am booked on tje Apr 13 2012, RT from SD to Hawaii
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The Jones Act is officially titled the Merchant Marine Act
of 1920, although it came to be known as the Jones Act after Senator Wesley Jones, who sponsored it. The act was passed in response to concerns about the health of the Merchant Marine, and to establish protections for sailors. Prior to passage of the Jones Act, sailors who were injured on the job had few options for recovering damages or getting assistance; recognizing the inherent danger of working at sea and the value of trained seamen, the Jones Act established a system of benefits for sailors.
Two parts of the Jones Act are of particular historical importance. The first heavily promoted American built, owned, and staffed ships. This was accomplished by restricting shipping and passenger trade within the United States to American owned or American flagged ships, and stipulated that 75% of a ship's crew must consist of American citizens. In addition, the use of foreign parts and labor in ship construction and repair was also heavily restricted. This section of the Jones Act was intended to create a strong, well staffed Merchant Marine which could ably serve the United States during both peace and war.
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Its actually called the Passengers Vessel Service Act, the Jones Act is cargo....but I am booked on tje Apr 13 2012, RT from SD to Hawaii
Yes, but Jones Act is commonly used.
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Does the Carnival cruise by the Kilauea Volcano at night so you can see the lava flowing into the ocean? I know not all cruise lines pass by Kilauea.
They did on our cruise but we were waaaay offshore so it was hardly visible.
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We are booked on the April 13, 2012.

Yes, it is roundtrip from San Diego (woo hoo).....the last day before we get back..the Spirit docks in Ensenada to satisfy Government Restrictions but we do NOT get off there...it is just a port day.

We get on and off in San Diego!!!

Can't wait!! (and yes, this is the furtherest out we have ever booked...but I wanted a balcony!!!)
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They did on our cruise but we were waaaay offshore so it was hardly visible.
that is a shame.
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Does the Carnival cruise by the Kilauea Volcano at night so you can see the lava flowing into the ocean? I know not all cruise lines pass by Kilauea.
We sailed on the Zaandam in October 2008 and cruised past the volcano. We were so far off shore that it looked like dying charcoal fire from a BBQ grill. However, the folks gathered on the fantail in their PJ's enjoyed themselves in spite of the limited view. !
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We did the Vancouver to Hawaii in September, 12 day cruise and we loved it. The sea days were fab. 5 days in all. There was some rough weather but we were on a trans pacific cruise so if we didn't have some rocking and rolling i would have been dissapointed
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We were on the Serenade of the Seas in 2006. The ship passed very close to the volcano around midnight, then turned and passed again so that the balcony passengers on both sides could get a spectacular view. The trails of lava entering the ocean amid the steam and sizzling sound are unforgettable! I am a terrible photographer---especially for a night shot, but here is an example.
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