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Old March 15th, 2012, 05:22 PM
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We had so much fun on our previous thread about the west coast that I thought we'd start another. This is a real scenario on the east coast. I will be personally involved in this one too.

Our group of regular cruisers are booking the inaugural Valor RT sailing from San Juan on Februaruy 10th. Half of our group prefer to do a B2B just to expense the travel costs. We want to book the February 3rd 7-day Valor repositioning sailing from Miami ending in San Juan as the first leg of a B2B.

So we will fly to and board in Miami for a 14 day B2B ending and flying out of San Juan.

So my friends, is the a violation of the PSVA? Opinions?
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I thought San Juan was considered a US port? Isn't US port to US port to US port OK?
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I may kick myself for getting into this again so you want to cruise from Miami to San Juan and then stay on and do a San Juan to San Juan? if that's right, it shouldn't be an issue with the PVSA.
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I may kick myself for getting into this again so you want to cruise from Miami to San Juan and then stay on and do a San Juan to San Juan? if that's right, it shouldn't be an issue with the PVSA.
That's it...Miami to San Juan to San Juan.

We are traveling between two US ports (Miami & San Juan) with no far foreign in between.
(Barbados would be furthest, but I think it is considered a near foreign)
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We sailed last fall from Jersey to San Juan, repo for Celebrity Summit
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Technically it is a violation; however, the U.S. Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico have special exemptions. They are different. USVI is 100% exempt. And...

..."Travel between the US mainland and Puerto Rico is allowed, provided that no eligible US vessel offers such service".

So unless there is a ferry between Miami and San Juan it should be OK.


So why not an exemption for Hawaii? It would sure simplify things.
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Technically it is a violation; however, the U.S. Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico have special exemptions. They are different. USVI is 100% exempt. And...

..."Travel between the US mainland and Puerto Rico is allowed, provided that no eligible US vessel offers such service".

So unless there is a ferry between Miami and San Juan it should be OK.

So why not an exemption for Hawaii? It would sure simplify things
There is a difference. Puerto Rico is not one of the 50 states on our flag. USVI also are not states. They have their own governments and only vote for president, not Congress. So they get exemptions because they are really not part of the United States.

Like I said in the first thread it is stupid that America prevents itself from getting money in cruise port cities by requiring ships to dock in Canadian or Mexican ports.
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